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« Reply #90 on: September 04, 2001, 09:25:58 PM »
I find it a complete insult to all of man kind that people believe we come from apes, I mean, the are ugly, they stink, and have no fashion sense.

There is no way we came from apes.

We are just another race, just like there are different animals.

I mean, how did people get different colour skin, like black, white and yellow, if they all came from apes, which are the same???

THink of it this way. Why is there only browns, blacks and white tones in skin? If we came from apes, and our skin evolved, why isnt there green and purple skin???

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« Reply #91 on: September 04, 2001, 10:51:31 PM »
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I find it a complete insult to all of man kind that people believe we come from apes, I mean, the are ugly, they stink, and have no fashion sense.

There is no way we came from apes.

We are just another race, just like there are different animals.

I mean, how did people get different colour skin, like black, white and yellow, if they all came from apes, which are the same???

THink of it this way. Why is there only browns, blacks and white tones in skin? If we came from apes, and our skin evolved, why isnt there green and purple skin???


Its called E V O L U T I O N !
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THink of it this way. Why is there only browns, blacks and white tones in skin? If we came from apes, and our skin evolved, why isnt there green and purple skin???


Well.. People in africa are black.. Everyone know that..

But do you know why they are black? Because its HOT down there.
And in your skin there is something called pigment.... Its there to protect you from the sunlight..
Well africans have more pigment then people in (example) Germany.. Cuz the sun is warmer in africa than in germany..

People in Sweden are white because its pretty cold here (most of the time.. Summer is pretty short!) and they sun is pretty weak..

We dont need alot of pigment because of that.
Like there was this indian guy in my class.. And one day when it was over 30*C out, we (from sweden) thought it was really hot.. It didnt bother him..

We think that the first HomoSapians came from Africa.. And they were black.. Well then they emigrated to the arabian parts, then upto France.. This took many generations before they got that far.. And they got used to the much colder climate.. Therefor they lost the pigment (cuz they didnt need it!) and soon evolved into whites..

Well something like that :)
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« Reply #92 on: September 04, 2001, 10:56:06 PM »
uhhh....Racer...apes dont have purple or green skin....they have brown... its pretty much just reptiles that have green skin

its all very scientific racer...DNA doesnt lie... ask Bill Clinton

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« Reply #93 on: September 05, 2001, 12:33:23 AM »
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uhhh....Racer...apes dont have purple or green skin....they have brown... its pretty much just reptiles that have green skin

its all very scientific racer...DNA doesnt lie... ask Bill Clinton


You have have a couple of screws loose if you ask me. I mean, I find that such an insult that you people believe that we come from apes, a dumb, ugly, and overtly smelly creature.

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« Reply #94 on: September 05, 2001, 01:11:01 AM »
How can you even take that as an insult? Sure, we see them as unintelligent today, but that\'s why we evolvedfrom them to have a sophisticated mind that can comprehend far more, an upright stance that frees our hands and allows us to develop tools and such, and so on. if you want to take it as an insult, that\'s fine, but I don\'t see why you should; it\'s just evolution. I don\'t see today\'s birds considering the birds of millions of years ago to be idiots and insulted by it; why should we be?
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« Reply #95 on: September 05, 2001, 04:30:54 AM »
I\'ll get to the point.

Religion did not cause wars. People did. They USED religion, particularly Christianity(which is based on turning the other cheek, loving thy enemy, forgiving each other\'s sins and respecting each other) as a vehicle for war.

How? They said "Look! The Islamics are in our Holy Land! Shall we let non-believers of Christ live there? No!"

Actually, they just wanted to plunder the riches there. Similar to the Conquistadors of South America.

Blame the drivers...not the vehicle.

** I did not want to get into thie thread. But I knew athiests would put blame on religion and not man. Man has always twisted the good things and turned them into instruments to serve their own greed or self serving gains. Lets keep things in perspective here.
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« Reply #96 on: September 05, 2001, 05:18:54 AM »
Nicely said GmanJoe!
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« Reply #97 on: September 05, 2001, 06:09:08 AM »
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But I knew athiests would put blame on religion and not man. Man has always twisted the good things and turned them into instruments to serve their own greed or self serving gains. Lets keep things in perspective here.


and man developed religion.  You can\'t say wars have nothing to do with religion. That\'s just total BS.

One man believes in some religion..
a different guy believes in a different religion.

They fight because there believes in different Religions. There religions infullance there actions.  They fight because they think each other\'s religions are wrong or misguided.  

I\'m not saying religion is fully responcable for wars. But it is part of some of them.

If someone told me to kill someone (religion), and i was so deep into it i did (me).. Who\'s to blame.. me or the dood who told me to kill.

Well, Guess what.. we BOTH are.
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« Reply #98 on: September 05, 2001, 06:14:46 AM »
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You have have a couple of screws loose if you ask me. I mean, I find that such an insult that you people believe that we come from apes, a dumb, ugly, and overtly smelly creature.


Well you might find it offensive, but DNA doesn\'t lie (as has been said before). We share 99% of our DNA with chimps. That is undisputable proof that we are all monkeys at heart.

We are incredibly similar to apes, in every aspect. If we were just another race that evolved, completly unrelated to apes we would have found remains by now.
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« Reply #99 on: September 05, 2001, 06:25:47 AM »
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I find it a complete insult to all of man kind that people believe we come from apes, I mean, the are ugly, they stink, and have no fashion sense.

There is no way we came from apes.

We are just another race, just like there are different animals.

I mean, how did people get different colour skin, like black, white and yellow, if they all came from apes, which are the same???

THink of it this way. Why is there only browns, blacks and white tones in skin? If we came from apes, and our skin evolved, why isnt there green and purple skin???


If you ask me, we are insulting apes.
Are you saying we are godly creatures, created by the almighty in his image, implying we have something of God in us? Well if you are, then God is one mean mofo, who needs his head examined.

PEOPLE ARE ANIMALS, we are descendents of apes that have learned to walk on 2 legs, and use their hands. Oh, yeah, and we have bigger brains, so that we can scheme new ways of killing each other.  

Religion produces war, and torment, One religious group says they have the only true religion, everyone else is fu@ked up in the head, lol.

Then you have other religions that have people blow themselves up in cars, and such other sh!t for their beliefs...

Religion, what is it good for?  :(

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« Reply #100 on: September 05, 2001, 06:33:32 AM »
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Well you might find it offensive, but DNA doesn\'t lie (as has been said before). We share 99% of our DNA with chimps. That is undisputable proof that we are all monkeys at heart.

We are incredibly similar to apes, in every aspect. If we were just another race that evolved, completly unrelated to apes we would have found remains by now.


It\'s only natural that we have similar DNA. Heck, I think the fly as about 30% similarities with humans. The watermelon is only 1% off from becoming a cloud.

But here\'s the kicker about humans. We\'re the only land mammals that have fat on the out layer of our bodies. Similar to dolphins and seals. Our body hair is streamlined like the dolphins (yes, they have hair, you just can\'t see them).

Now, I\'m not taking sides here. But the Bible did say that all creatures were created from Earth. So it would make sense that humans have common DNA with Chimps(who are 98% - not 99%, similar to our DNA).

Do I believe in evolution? Well....yes and no. In the Bible, God created Adam and Eve. When the two were banned from Eden, the Bible describes them going to a town. Now.....what\'s a town doing there? The translation maybe off from the Dead Sea Scrolls but maybe....just maybe....these Homo Sapiens(Adam and Eve) came upon a village of Neanderthals(very similar to us - just taller and stockier in build). That\'s my theory. God created everything. He just gave humans a little more than others.

Anthropoligist theorize that neanderthals were extinct not by dying off - but by cross breeding with modern humans. Its just our DNA was dominant and theirs was not. They were bred INTO extinction. If all these "ancestors" of ours were that smart, comared to the apes of today, why are they not around? Actually, there within our own genetic makeup now.
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« Reply #101 on: September 05, 2001, 08:26:54 AM »
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It\'s only natural that we have similar DNA. Heck, I think the fly as about 30% similarities with humans. The watermelon is only 1% off from becoming a cloud.

But here\'s the kicker about humans. We\'re the only land mammals that have fat on the out layer of our bodies. Similar to dolphins and seals. Our body hair is streamlined like the dolphins (yes, they have hair, you just can\'t see them).

Now, I\'m not taking sides here. But the Bible did say that all creatures were created from Earth. So it would make sense that humans have common DNA with Chimps(who are 98% - not 99%, similar to our DNA).

Do I believe in evolution? Well....yes and no. In the Bible, God created Adam and Eve. When the two were banned from Eden, the Bible describes them going to a town. Now.....what\'s a town doing there? The translation maybe off from the Dead Sea Scrolls but maybe....just maybe....these Homo Sapiens(Adam and Eve) came upon a village of Neanderthals(very similar to us - just taller and stockier in build). That\'s my theory. God created everything. He just gave humans a little more than others.

Anthropoligist theorize that neanderthals were extinct not by dying off - but by cross breeding with modern humans. Its just our DNA was dominant and theirs was not. They were bred INTO extinction. If all these "ancestors" of ours were that smart, comared to the apes of today, why are they not around? Actually, there within our own genetic makeup now.



I think the Neanderthals died out due to global climactic changes, the appearance of Homo Sapiens, which meant competition for the Neanderthal. Maybe disease contributed to their demise too. ;)

I don’t theorize about where we came from, theories like God created us from dirt, or little green men from outer-space deposited us here, are unproven, and will never have any credibility in the scientific community. This is where the word “Dogma” comes from, our beliefs… ;) btw, I like that movie.

I think what we need is some type of common ground we can all agree upon,

QUESTION: Does our universe need the existence of GOD? How did we come to be?

Our solar system formed about 4.5 billion years ago,
Earth was formed from mostly heavier elements,  + carbon, oxygen etc…
Somehow all these different atoms arranged to form molecules of DNA.
The process of evolution was very slow at first, it took about 2.5 billion years to evolve from simple cells to multi-cell animals, and another billion years for fish + reptiles  + mammals to evolve. Evolution has sped up enormously, we came from simple mammals to our current form in about 100 million years or so. The major contributor for us humans is the ability to write, reason, and understand our surroundings. Because of this, we have kept our knowledge and improved our lives, so we have a new way of evolving, not just biologically, but by information that is useful for us. Enough about us, lets talk about God.

Everything that begins to exist must have a cause, So,
If the universe began to exist from the big bang, then the universe has a cause.

There may be a being(s) that we can consider to be GOD(s), who have created our universe, but they surely don’t reside in our universe nor is god the universe. ;)

Time is a dimension, with cause and effect, if time begins with our universe,
Then the cause of the universe could have originated by a creator (GOD)

I can’t prove or disprove this, nor would I want to try. I think humans are fabricating religious beliefs around this being (GOD). This being has nothing to do with our day-to-day operations though, it is not a personal GOD.

From the time of the cavemen we looked up into the sky and imagined our gods to be there, looking down on us, …

Maybe it is time to think differently, to see that religion is a conniving institution with greed, and human suffering as its motivators. ;) Conquest and greed play major factors in our last couple of thousands of  years of evolving.

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« Reply #102 on: September 05, 2001, 08:34:57 AM »
Big Bang theory.

Let there be Light.

From nothing we got something. Just live and let live. Though religious people tend to live longer and happier lives. :D
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« Reply #103 on: September 05, 2001, 09:00:51 AM »
How could a universe start from nothing? Where did that nothing come from? etc.

Where did God come from?

questions that both sides cannot answer. Give me religion any day, though. Makes me alot happier.

I do notice that alot of my friends who aren\'t religious, more specifically, LDS, lead less happy looking lives. They seem more on edge and less cheerful.

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« Reply #104 on: September 05, 2001, 10:31:08 AM »
this is fascinating, the best debate is about religon and evolution, this is 2 things that people really are Fanboys of.

Im a real science and evolution fanboy.

 

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