Sony says:Graphics over gameplay

I hope Jak and Daxter will be 20+ hours.I\'m really looking forward the that game.I\'m going crazy, I can\'t wait anymore
 

 

   

Hey ddaryl you forgot TTT?  TTT-endless reply value!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thepimp: :thepimp: :thepimp: :thepimp: :thepimp:

See?Things arent as bad as they look.PS2 has lots of long high quality titles.

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Would it surprise me if they said this? No. Do I believe this memo? No. Once it is confirmed on offical sites and not on GC or Xbox sites it will have a lot more truth to it, in my opinion. Then again, this opinion is coming from someone who complains that most games today are just full of cinemas and mindless complain...So, take it for what it is worth.

Lavan, that GT3 rant earned you a ton of respect in my mind.

That was one of the most thought out, interesting points I have read on this board in a LONG time. Many people spend over half an hour on some of their posts and I can\'t even read through them, they are so boring.

I would say in Physics and AI, F355 Challenge in the arcade or DC would champ GT3, like I had said all along before GT3 even came out, easily.

Good points on J&L, a great game, even though I am not much for that type of racing game.


Eric Jacob

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
Lavan, that GT3 rant earned you a ton of respect in my mind.

That was one of the most thought out, interesting points I have read on this board in a LONG time. Many people spend over half an hour on some of their posts and I can\'t even read through them, they are so boring.

I would say in Physics and AI, F355 Challenge in the arcade or DC would champ GT3, like I had said all along before GT3 even came out, easily.

Good points on J&L, a great game, even though I am not much for that type of racing game.


Eric Jacob

I guess GT3 is one of the flawest games then isnt it.:rolleyes:.

BOTTOM LINE:

I am a developer and no one is going to tell me how to write my program.  That\'s my work and my art that I\'ll spend hundreds of hours on and the code is none of your business.


WORD

I didn\'t say anything like that, now did I, Unicron?

GT3 was and still is overhyped. I don\'t find it fun because I was looking for improvements over GT1 or 2. I have GT2, I don\'t need a 50 dollar graphical upgrade with a downgrade in MANY other features.


Eric Jacob

GT3 was and still is overhyped. I don\'t find it fun because I was looking for improvements over GT1 or 2. I have GT2, I don\'t need a 50 dollar graphical upgrade with a downgrade in MANY other features.

WORD!!!

I thought GT3 was great. Now, was it a perfect game? Nope. And if the hype made it seem that way, then it certainly didn\'t live up to the hype. But I still find it fun and enjoyable game. You may disagree, called having a different opinion. Everyone is entited to them.

This "graphics over gameplay" BS memo. Not saying it isn\'t a true memo sent out to developers, but the way Xbox and GC fanboys are making it, are truely blowing it out of proportion. NOW, I hate short games like everyone else (afterall, you won\'t find me praising Bouncer or the likes). But a long game, will not save a ****ty game. Afterall, like ddaryl said, don\'t work on excessively long games at the expense of a well polished games.

For example, RE games and games in the "survival horror" genre are fairly short (if your really good, you can beat these games within 3 hours or less). Yet I would play these games, over a games like Evergrace or some other crappy game. No matter what the length is.

And, back to ddaryl post, he has a nice list of "long" games for the PS2 (that also happen to have good/great graphics) that are coming to the PS2. Hmmmmmmmmmmm...so developers are coming out with these great "long" games with "good/great" gameplay.

[BizioEE]

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
I didn\'t say anything like that, now did I, Unicron?

GT3 was and still is overhyped. I don\'t find it fun because I was looking for improvements over GT1 or 2. I have GT2, I don\'t need a 50 dollar graphical upgrade with a downgrade in MANY other features.


Eric Jacob

I don\'t agree with you...I\'m a hot GT fan(and even a little talented:)=1\'32"5 -special stage R11 with the GTO(clean guide) - 1\'22"8 (tricky guide) GT1 etc...

After playing GT3..."you can\'t play GT2 any more"..and not just because GT3 has better graphics...but most of all because the controll is sensibly more precise,there\'s no slow down and you can take easy a landmark(the graphics is far more detailed and it has more draw-distance=in this case better graphics give you better game-play;)) to start a breathtaking braking in the exact point you want...or to perfectly evaluate the braking distance...and now you have analog pressure on the accelerator and brakes...and these are the kind of things that make a racing game even more realistic,obviously....now I can lighten my foot on the accelerator on the"chord-point" exactly as I wish to perform perfect turns...and I know...only a real fan of this kind of games could appreciate all this....

So Altered...please...don\'t be superficial...even if GT3 lost some little features of GT2...it has gained something more important=game-play! and I know that most of people can\'t notice that...

I would say in Physics and AI, F355 Challenge in the arcade or DC would champ GT3, like I had said all along before GT3 even came out, easily.

What do you mean for Physics?

[BizioEE]

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and this is nothing compared to the crappy game-play of some games coming out...MGS2,SH2,Ico,J&D,Virtua Fighter4,GTN etc ...sure all these games will show us only great graphics
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by JumpMan
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MGS2, and SH2 will be short games. We already know that. There\'s 2 shinning examples. But it\'s from Konami, so we shoudn\'t exactly expect lenghty gameplay experiences.
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Don\'t get me wrong...I was not referring to the lenght of the game-experience:)...- though MGS2 is not so short and there\'re games coming out with more than 30-40 hours of game-play(ddaryl gave us some examples) - but I simply made a comment about the fact that future PS2 games should follow the new trend "great graphics and poor game-play"...I mean...if a game has a less number of game-play hours...it has a crappy-game play ?
Are we speaking of game-play? longevity? Both? ...when I read at first this thread...it appeared to me a little misleading...and that\'s why I replied in that way.....

Im sure someone else has said this before..

"If its not broken dont fix it.."
By that I mean.. GT3\'s gameplay is great..

How could they improve it??

Btw.. I saw an interview with Kaz. Yamauchi-san, he said he was planing something special with GT-N (GT Network)
I wonder what that is.

He said something like
"GTN is not only going to be racing"
Something like that.. hmm

Btw..
This, graphics over lenght strategy from Sony is just short term..
They want developers to release the games when Xbox launches in november to compete..

Btw.. I would sure like to read that "memo"..

PS: Btw, some of you here are the most cynical people I have ever met.

The biggest disapointment for me in GT3 is that PD didnt include an Omega Boost and Motor Toon mini games as promised:mad:

Omega Boost = x memebers of Team Andromeda


Eric Jacob