PS2 : for worse times...

IronFist

1. The Playstation is a trusted name and hasn\'t done anything yet to lose any fans.

It has now by capcom moving to NGC.

But i dont see the big deal capcom say they dont have enough power to do wat they want on the PS2 bu11sh!t look at FFX for instance look at those graphics, if Square can do it so can Capcom maybe they need to go and get lessons from the mastas SQUARE!!! anyway i just hope i get RE for PS2 in the future because there is no way im getting A Pretendo Ghey Cube just so i can play RE. Capcom better pull there fingers out of there A$$ if they want to get RE going.
cyas

MOSTLY sequels to tired games, or new games in a tired genre.  Graphics and horsepower that doesn\'t stack up against the newer systems.

I didn\'t expect to find any support on this forum.  Enjoy your PS2s.

Knotter, I\'m going to agree with you here. So far PS2 games and graphics have really bored me and lefted me totally disapointed. I know I can always count on NGC since Nintendo games have always been the most fun and enjoyable, atleast for me anyway. I always planned on buying a second console and since there hardly isn\'t any good DC games around here, I plan on buying another one. Either PS2 or Xbox. Right now Xbox looks to have the clear advantage. Don\'t let my insignificant opinion stop you from enjoying the games you like though, PS2 fans.

I find it ironic how PS2 fans have been eagerly been awaiting RE:4, but now since it\'s on NGC there coming out with these lame ass excuses for not liking it anymore. It\'s old, it\'s been done, yeah but *cough* most of your good games this fall are indeed sequals. Hypocrites.

Originally posted by fastson

Exacly..
PS2 has the brightest future of all 3 systems..

You see, that\'s called an opinion. If you want to say something like that, then dd IMO(in my opinion). Oh, and one more thing.

First generation NGC.



First generation Xbox.

But i dont see the big deal capcom say they dont have enough power to do wat they want on the PS2 bu11sh!t look at FFX for instance look at those graphics, if Square can do it so can Capcom maybe they need to go and get lessons from the mastas SQUARE!!! anyway i just hope i get RE for PS2 in the future because there is no way im getting A Pretendo Ghey Cube just so i can play RE. Capcom better pull there fingers out of there A$$ if they want to get RE going.
cyas

Yeah, like calling the GameCube "GheyCube" will earn you a lot of credibility around here. Good work.

This obviously console debating material btw.

X-Box and NGC will always have better looking games, that is a given, since they are launching more than a year later. DOA3 lookd better than anything i have seen on PS2. RE, pre-rendered or not, looks better than any game I have ever seen.

X-Box and GC also have their own installed games, just like PS2. People ALWAYS bring up the same games when talking about PS2:

MGS2, FFX, T4, VF4, SH2, DMC, ICO, etc.

but the X-Box and GC libraries are filling up and changing by day.

GC has:

ALL the RE games, Rare games (Perfect Dark, nuff said), Sonic Team, etc.

Every week it seems a new GC game gets announced.

X-Box has:

Panzer Dragoon 4, DOA3, JSR:F, Halo, Project Ego, Project Gotham, Morrowind, GUNVALKYRIE, Matrix Online, etc.

Games for GC and X-Box get announced all the time, PS2 fans have been waiting for the same titles since the console launched.


Eric Jacob

Hm, I do have support.

It\'s true, we have been waiting for the same games since launch.
Also, the games I was waiting for (TTT, GT3, etc) have been dissappointments.

I remember lots of PS2 owners laughing at the GC specs.  No one is laughing anymore.  GC does indeed look good.

For my money though I think I\'d prefer Xbox style of games.

If I sell my PS2 with all my games now while the market is still high on them, I could afford either a GC or xbox...this has possibilities.

depends on how many games you have for PS2 to sell.

But I would really wait until a few months after either console launches before you make any hasty decisions. Neither upcoming launch is looking too nice, but the games coming after are looking spectacular, but I think X-Box is looking much better than GC, but of course that is opinion, and I will have both eventually.


Eric Jacob

Good \'ol fanboys..

Just waiting for an oppertunity to bash PS2
But thats allright, you\'ll see who\'s the master in this generation!..

Hmmm, I see a variety of opinions formed here, while I was
away. Good to see that.
I just wanted to point out a certain feeling I have about the way
how things are going for PS2. Call it a state of mind, if you will.
It\'s an adding up of late events which gives me a feeling about a possible trend I see happening with the PS2 as a gamesplatform, without looking specifically at, for example the RE franchise specifically, that \'left\' PS2 for six games.
What it all comes down to is the big question if developers (..and yes I know, there\'s still alot for PS2) will really get the most out of the machine, IN TIME. That is imho when XBOX and NGC launch.

To Ironfist :
From http://www.Coremagazine.com
Question: What are your thoughts on the GameCube hardware?

Mikami-san: "It\'s very powerful and easy in terms of software development. The one thing I want people to know is, we haven\'t necessarily received money from Nintendo for deciding to make the Biohazard series exclusive to GameCube. More importantly, we believe the GameCube is a machine which will definitely have a five-year life cycle, if not longer. So it will provide the stability needed for the future of the Biohazard series."

So, Mikami is of course not saying bad things about PS2, but he believes NGC to have a more stable long life cycle, which he suits best for his RE franchise, in favour of PS2.
In some way he\'s prefering NGC over PS2. Of course PS2 gets Onimusha 2 and DMC, but when devs move a franchise for SIX games and say stuff like that, I\'m gonna feel a little nervous.
(yes,...I\'m one of those ppl who can only afford one console at a time.)
What if this becomes trend ? If more devs choose to move a certain franchise to another console because they can only create their vision to the fullest on that console, other than PS2, that says something imo.
To top that, the issue about MGS2. I really question if that\'s gonna work out fine. You have to admit it\'s a killer app for Sony.
So I\'m gonna enjoy playing games such as Silent Hill2 and others on my PS2, but I\'m keeping my eyes on how things are going to work out for it. *hoping for the better*
Knotter8

Originally posted by Knotter8
In some way he\'s prefering NGC over PS2. Of course PS2 gets Onimusha 2 and DMC, but when devs move a franchise for SIX games and say stuff like that, I\'m gonna feel a little nervous.
(yes,...I\'m one of those ppl who can only afford one console at a time.)
What if this becomes trend ? If more devs choose to move a certain franchise to another console because they can only create their vision to the fullest on that console, other than PS2, that says something imo.
To top that, the issue about MGS2. I really question if that\'s gonna work out fine. You have to admit it\'s a killer app for Sony.

Hmm..
Most of those SIX games are avalible for PSX and PS2
Resident Evil1, 2, Nemesiss, CVCX.
4/6=66.6%

All they really add is new graphics to an really old gameplay..

And about MGS2..
I really dont know what to say.. The game is gonna be delayed untill 2002 (January or Feb.. I\'d guess!)

So I dont see how that could really hurt SONY?

So, you\'re fairly optimistic about it fastson.
Anyway, thanks for the nice comparison pics.

Knotter8;)

Originally posted by Knotter8
So, you\'re fairly optimistic about it fastson.
Anyway, thanks for the nice comparison pics.

Knotter8;)

Yes.. You know optimists live longer than pessimists
About 3 years or so

No problem..

Why does everyone think that waiting for 2 or 3 years for programmers to figure out PS2 hardware is ok?  We weren\'t promised great games in 2-3 years.  First gen GC and xbox games look and (by all accounts) play great.  First Gen!

I loved my psx, but I feel very cheated by the PS2.  It has been mediocre.  I have more fun when I go to my girlfriend\'s house and play her brother\'s DC (Virtual Tennis, Soul Calibre and Crazy Taxi).

Granted beyond those 3 games there is little else on the DC market that really interests me, but at least the games have always been maxxing out the system.

I also find it ironic that the people calling others Fanboys are Fanboys themselves.  Anyone who owns a PS2 and doesn\'t see the problems with the machine are either fanboys or completely out of touch.

Originally posted by Watchdog
Why does everyone think that waiting for 2 or 3 years for programmers to figure out PS2 hardware is ok?  We weren\'t promised great games in 2-3 years.  First gen GC and xbox games look and (by all accounts) play great.  First Gen!

I loved my psx, but I feel very cheated by the PS2.  It has been mediocre.  I have more fun when I go to my girlfriend\'s house and play her brother\'s DC (Virtual Tennis, Soul Calibre and Crazy Taxi).

Granted beyond those 3 games there is little else on the DC market that really interests me, but at least the games have always been maxxing out the system.

I also find it ironic that the people calling others Fanboys are Fanboys themselves.  Anyone who owns a PS2 and doesn\'t see the problems with the machine are either fanboys or completely out of touch.

XBOX and GC are MUCH easier to program for which means they will be a lot closer to using thier full power in the first gen.  I mean PS2 programers are just now starting to use and optimize the vector units which means they have been bassically using only half the hardware and bad optimizations.  

All i gotta say is keep your PS2, and don\'t place any bets... this is gonna be one hell of a brawl.

I don\'t care about the reason why the games have been sub-par.  There wasn\'t a warning sticker on the box, nor in the manual.  We\'ve been let down, and really, that\'s the short of it.

Originally posted by Watchdog
Why does everyone think that waiting for 2 or 3 years for programmers to figure out PS2 hardware is ok?  We weren\'t promised great games in 2-3 years.  First gen GC and xbox games look and (by all accounts) play great.  First Gen!

I loved my psx, but I feel very cheated by the PS2.  It has been mediocre.  I have more fun when I go to my girlfriend\'s house and play her brother\'s DC (Virtual Tennis, Soul Calibre and Crazy Taxi).

Granted beyond those 3 games there is little else on the DC market that really interests me, but at least the games have always been maxxing out the system.

I also find it ironic that the people calling others Fanboys are Fanboys themselves.  Anyone who owns a PS2 and doesn\'t see the problems with the machine are either fanboys or completely out of touch.

Ok you say you feel cheated, and that you shouldnt have to wait 2-3 years for good ps2 games, well who said it was gonna be that long, good games are already coming to the ps2 this winter so stop complaining and start playing games