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« Reply #45 on: January 28, 2006, 04:37:03 PM »
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This question wouldn\'t have been axed if John Kerry were in office


axed LOL

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« Reply #46 on: January 28, 2006, 05:41:27 PM »
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Guns & Bombs should be banned out of this world for ff-ing EVER !

then movies wouldn\'t be any fun, people would settle their differences with what? talking to each other
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« Reply #47 on: January 28, 2006, 06:55:41 PM »
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then movies wouldn\'t be any fun, people would settle their differences with what? talking to each other
With martial arts...HAYYYAAAAH!

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« Reply #48 on: January 28, 2006, 07:03:31 PM »
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This question wouldn\'t have been axed if John Kerry were in office


Actually it would have been Al Gore...  But who\'s counting..  No pun intended..
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« Reply #49 on: January 28, 2006, 11:11:08 PM »
I\'d bomb Washington DC... They\'re in there own world over there, so that is just like a country.



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« Reply #50 on: January 28, 2006, 11:14:58 PM »
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This question wouldn\'t have been axed if John Kerry were in office



Which is to be expected,  people in the US we\'re not intelligent enough to vote for an intellectual person over a "My Daddy\'s got Connections, rich oil friends, and I can feed the religous right any BS I want and they\'ll buy it" type of person as president.



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« Reply #51 on: January 29, 2006, 06:56:39 AM »
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then movies wouldn\'t be any fun, people would settle their differences with what? talking to each other


Now THAT would be cinema innovation ! But, you should know Hollywood\'s funding and influential lobby...

Unfortunately, that\'s not gonna change on short term basis. Movies could set an example to not resort to this vicious cycle of fictional \'ahhum\' rolemodel characters, resorting to violence.
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« Reply #52 on: January 29, 2006, 09:15:06 AM »
Violence sells. That\'s what the people crave and that\'s what Hollywood is giving the people, just what they want. Its up to the parents to keep their kids from watching violent movies instead of bitching they are violent. Besides that\'s what the rating system is for and its only gotten stricter lately.
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« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2006, 10:53:17 AM »
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Violence sells. That\'s what the people crave and that\'s what Hollywood is giving the people, just what they want. Its up to the parents to keep their kids from watching violent movies instead of bitching they are violent. Besides that\'s what the rating system is for and its only gotten stricter lately.


Hollywood only cares about money.They will do anything to prevent parents from preventing their children from not viewing any kind of violence.We view violence even if we dont want to.

I do not accept the logic of "hey because people like watching violence its ok for Hollywood to bombard us with graphic violence".

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« Reply #54 on: January 29, 2006, 11:02:37 AM »
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Hollywood only cares about money.They will do anything to prevent parents from preventing their children from not viewing any kind of violence.We view violence even if we dont want to.

I do not accept the logic of "hey because people like watching violence its ok for Hollywood to bombard us with graphic violence".


How is that different than any other company?

Any company will produce a product that the public wants. Right now, people want violent movies because that\'s what they are interested in. Therefore, Hollywood supplies the public with a product that they want. Its that simple. If you don\'t like watching violent movies, stop bitching because other poeple do and there\'s no point in ruining it for hte rest of us when you just have to not go and watch it.
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« Reply #55 on: January 29, 2006, 11:18:59 AM »
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How is that different than any other company?

Any company will produce a product that the public wants. Right now, people want violent movies because that\'s what they are interested in. Therefore, Hollywood supplies the public with a product that they want. Its that simple. If you don\'t like watching violent movies, stop bitching because other poeple do and there\'s no point in ruining it for hte rest of us when you just have to not go and watch it.
Did I say that other companies are different?

Do you think everyone has a correct understanding of what is morally right or wrong?

Do you think that we the consumers have total control of what should be produced and that companies dont excercise influence and control on our preferences?

Should someone who is strongly and wrongly influenced by violence be influenced forever by graphic violence?

Should children whose parents arent caring much about what they watch, become graphic violence-hungry passive viewers from which companies love getting us much money as possible from them?

[sarcasm]Kids usually dont like studying or beeing taught whats morally right or wrong.I guess since they dont demand it, we shouldnt care much about where our society/culture is being led to.
We should only worry so we build as much as possible a commercialised standard of living in the mercy of media exploitation and ignorance.[/sarcasm]

We sacrifice creativity for easy cash
« Last Edit: January 29, 2006, 11:20:56 AM by Unicron! »

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« Reply #56 on: January 29, 2006, 11:44:22 AM »
Did I say that other companies are different? That\'s besides the point. You are making it sound like the movie industry is different from any other industry. Guess what, its capitalism. You make money however you can. You don\'t like it then move to a communist country

Do you think everyone has a correct understanding of what is morally right or wrong? This too is off topic. We are talking about violence in movies. Violence has been in human history since the beginning of man\'s existance. You make it sound like its new and shoudl be shielded from everyone.

Do you think that we the consumers have total control of what should be produced and that companies dont excercise influence and control on our preferences? Again, violence is part of human nature. People want to see action, people getting shot, blown up, etc. Its what the consumer wants and that\'s what\'s being delivered. I dont\' know how you can\'t understand that.

Should someone who is strongly and wrongly influenced by violence be influenced forever by graphic violence? How are they being wrongfully influenced? You dont\' have to watch it. Watch sappy movies if you don\'t like action.

Should children whose parents arent caring much about what they watch, become graphic violence-hungry passive viewers from which companies love getting us much money as possible from them? If a kid is going into an R rated movie, I don\'t think its the movie companies fault but the theater or movie rental place. We have ratings here for a reason. You are makng it sound like a bunch of 10 year olds are rushing out to a movie theater to buy a ticket to an R rated movie.

I really don\'t see much of a difference between violence in movies today and the violence of gruesome wars that young people fought in during the past. The difference is one is reality and the other is an escape from reality. I watch movies to forget about my life and just for 2 hours believe what I see on the screen is real but when the 2 hours are over, I go back to my reality. I\'d choose that over real gruesome violence in my life any day.
« Last Edit: January 29, 2006, 11:46:34 AM by Titan »
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« Reply #57 on: January 29, 2006, 12:32:46 PM »
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Violence sells. That\'s what the people crave and that\'s what Hollywood is giving the people


I\'m not perse against violence in movies or use of violence by means of fire arms in movies, no.

I\'m just saying that the argument of \'movies\' is and extremely weak excuse as a pro weapons stance.

(Becuz I hinted at the utopia of a world without weapons and No one tried to counter that by saying that his dear movies would be no \'fun\' anymore).

If I could actually change the world within my lifetime i would throw out all weapons, gasoline cars and toxic industries right NOW. I\'d only allow them to \'live on\' in fictional media ; movies, games, books etc.
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« Reply #58 on: January 29, 2006, 01:09:13 PM »
france....  yea i just wanted to answer the question... now continue with the debate
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« Reply #59 on: January 29, 2006, 05:57:18 PM »
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I\'m not perse against violence in movies or use of violence by means of fire arms in movies, no.

I\'m just saying that the argument of \'movies\' is and extremely weak excuse as a pro weapons stance.

(Becuz I hinted at the utopia of a world without weapons and No one tried to counter that by saying that his dear movies would be no \'fun\' anymore).

If I could actually change the world within my lifetime i would throw out all weapons, gasoline cars and toxic industries right NOW. I\'d only allow them to \'live on\' in fictional media ; movies, games, books etc.


I see your stance but I was actually refuting Unicron by saying violence in movies should be thrown out.
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