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Offline TheGR81
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Rap music has gone to hell and back........
« on: October 04, 2001, 06:02:13 AM »
Im huge a fan of rap, but the one person that got me listening to it was the greatest ARTIST ever (imo) Tupac Shakur, but he as you know is dead...(some say he\'s not).

Anyways, with the absence of 2Pac who actually rapped about something that had to do with real life, instead of today\'s rappers....WTF?! is up with there songs??, Cash Money, Dr. Dre has lost it, Snoop Dogg is a damn sell-out,


Today\'s rap theme: Getting "ass" and Smoking "weed".

No one the raps today is any good, there lyrics suck big time....here\'s an example:

2Pac Shakur (Changes, Album: Greatest Hits):

"I see no changes, wake up in the morning and I ask myself
Is life worth living, or should I blast myself
I\'m tired of being poor, and even worse I\'m black
my stomach hurts, so I\'m looking for a purse to snatch
Cops give a damn about a negro
pull a trigger, kill a nigger, he\'s a hero
Givin back to the kids, who the hell cares
one less hungry mouth on the welfare
first ship them dope, let them deal to brothers
give them guns, step back and watch them kill each other
It\'s time to fight back, that\'s what Huey said
2 shots in the dark, now Huey\'s dead
I got love for my brothers
but we can never go nowhere unless we share with each other
we gotta start makin changes
learn to see me as a brother instead of 2 distant strangers
and that\'s how it\'s supposed be
how can you tell them take a brother if he\'s close to me
I\'d love to go back to when we played as kids
but things change, and that\'s the way it is"



Artist: Big Tymers f/ Lil\' Wayne, Juvenile
Album:  I Got That Work
Song:   # 1 Stunna


"Nigga can\'t out-stunt me when I come in these ****in\' cars, nigga
Believe that!
You know me - I don\'t need no introduction and ****
Ride Bentley\'s \'round the city on buttons, ya *****
Arm hangin\', wrist blingin\' - just stun\'n and ****
Drop the top
Block is hot
Stay bumpin\', ya *****
When B. Atrice get it right, don\'t tangle and twist it
Hit the club every night, drunk - drinkin\' that Crissy
Niggas mad - don\'t like it \'cause I\'m bangin\' they *****es
When the light hit the ice, it twankle and glistens
Baby, Brian, B., Bubba - you can call me what you feel
Hoppin\' out the platinum Hummer with the platinum grill
With the platinum pieces, and the platinum chains
With the platinum watches, and the platinum rings (platinum rings)
That **** ain\'t changed
Still doin\' my thing
Still do it for the block - nuts hang and swing
You don\'t know another nigga that could stunt like me (stunt like me)
Big Tymers representin\', nigga - the U.P.T."



And that was just one of 2pac\'s many great songs, then we have "Cash Money" and you sit back and think "What in the blue hell are they trying to say?!".

At first I didn\'t understand why people hate rap, well now I do.
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2001, 06:08:20 AM »
I only read your thread title, but that was enough to really get me depressed.

I got all excited when you said rap had gone to hell, but then you just had to continue with "and back"


Come on rap, go to hell and stay there!!!!


I now return you to the previously scheduled thread.
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2001, 06:20:05 AM »
I agree to an extent..but even if the lyrics suck..ill still buy it or DL it if I dig the beat. Also, you have to remember..alot of these guys arent doing it for the love of music..but rather the love of money.

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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2001, 06:23:46 AM »
Yes, Booooo Videoholic!
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2001, 06:25:52 AM »
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Originally posted by TheGR81
Yes, Booooo Videoholic!


hey look we agreed!!!:D
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2001, 06:27:26 AM »
We did?!, son of a....


I meant....VIDEOHOLIC RULEZ!
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2001, 06:50:18 AM »
It matters what kind of rap your listening too..  Main stream rap for the most part does suck...  I do like Timbaland\'s beat though...  He make some of the most phattest beats out there..


No underground rap kicks a ss...  And there are a few major label artists out there that are really good

For example.

Ming + FS
Common
Deltron 3030

Just to name a couple..  There are also some local Dj\'s and producers in my area that are really good as well..

I think its all a matter of your prespective!

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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2001, 06:55:06 AM »
2Pac rulez, too bad he ain\'t around no mo,

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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2001, 07:35:17 AM »
Crash Dummy Records has always been about the STUNTASIC music, which is all about flossing, something that 2pac wasn\'t about. 2pac had the realest lyrics of any artist out there, and frankly NOT a single rapper today can touch 2pacs greatness.


Cash Money is pure garbage now(Or has been to some of you), and Snoop hasn\'t had a decent album since his first one. Rap, used to be the ****, Although, its starting to get dumb. The lyrics by eminem are childish at best, even DMX is to damn commerical for some. DMX shoulda stayed undergroud, 2pac, his unreleased  ****, should stay unreleased. Rap will never be the same. Timbaland is better then Dre anyways. His beats are phatter, and so are his lyrics. Bottom Line, DMX is the best rapper out there right now. No one tops him. Not even ICP.

BTW, music is all about the beats these days, if you notice, most people don\'t pay attention to the lyrics anymore. Those people have systems in their car, and all they want is, BASS tracks....

Surely half you people have Subwoofers in your cars?

2pac= Great example of a Rap artist!!!!!
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2001, 07:40:42 AM »
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DMX is the best rapper out there right now. No one tops him. Not even ICP.

BTW, music is all about the beats these days, if you notice, most people don\'t pay attention to the lyrics anymore. Those people have systems in their car, and all they want is, BASS tracks....

Surely half you people have Subwoofers in your cars?

2pac= Great example of a Rap artist!!!!!


ICP sux booty tho....JayZ has nice lyrics if you listen as did biggie..another great one.. Dont forget about early Wu-Tang..Common...Talib Kweli(sp)?...Q-tip and tribe called quest. 8ball and MJG have some pretty cool lyrics too when it comes to alot of their songs..southern rap yes..but much different than the rest of the dirtee south.
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2001, 07:49:01 AM »
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ICP sux booty tho....JayZ has nice lyrics if you listen as did biggie..another great one.. Dont forget about early Wu-Tang..Common...Talib Kweli(sp)?...Q-tip and tribe called quest. 8ball and MJG have some pretty cool lyrics too when it comes to alot of their songs..southern rap yes..but much different than the rest of the dirtee south.



Insane Clown Posse is the gayest form of rap(if you wanna call it that)out today. They suck, I don\'t see why they have such a following. EightBall and MJG are pretty damn good artists, if you get the chance download the song, Pure Uncut, by Eightball, its one of his better songs, but not his best. Dirty South rap has always been better then alot of the Eastcoast, and Westcoast rap thats out.(with exception to 2pac) Common is pretty damn good, and I can\'t stand any of th Rawkus rappers except Big L(R.I.P) Wu tang has been awesome since day one. They always manage to put out album after album of quailty. Method Man is another good example of good rapper, so is Redman. Biggie, he had a few tight jams, Your nobody, Notorious Thugs, Can\'t you see, the list goes on. Rap was good in the early 90\'s, and since then, its gone downhill.  Wack ass Nas anyone? Jay Z is good also.  I don\'t care much for his new album, but the other albums were pretty damn good.
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2001, 07:55:23 AM »
Bone Thugs is the best rap group ever:smokin: , much better than half that **** now

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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2001, 07:55:54 AM »
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Insane Clown Posse is the gayest form of rap(if you wanna call it that)out today. They suck, I don\'t see why they have such a following. EightBall and MJG are pretty damn good artists, if you get the chance download the song, Pure Uncut, by Eightball, its one of his better songs, but not his best. Dirty South rap has always been better then alot of the Eastcoast, and Westcoast rap thats out.(with exception to 2pac) Common is pretty damn good, and I can\'t stand any of th Rawkus rappers except Big L(R.I.P) Wu tang has been awesome since day one. They always manage to put out album after album of quailty. Method Man is another good example of good rapper, so is Redman. Biggie, he had a few tight jams, Your nobody, Notorious Thugs, Can\'t you see, the list goes on. Rap was good in the early 90\'s, and since then, its gone downhill.  Wack ass Nas anyone? Jay Z is good also.  I don\'t care much for his new album, but the other albums were pretty damn good.



NAS, IMO..was only cool when he did Illmatic..the other 3 albums pretty much sucked..hell when Jayz tore him a new one..he couldnt even do a decent comeback. On that note..I really dig JayZ\' last one..Blueprint...to me it seems like he keeps getting better and better. Which is usually opposite for most artists, they start out good then go down hill.
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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2001, 07:58:00 AM »
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Bone Thugs is the best rap group ever:smokin: , much better than half that **** now


Im not even gonna begin to point out where that is so untrue..I guess you are a bit biased since you are both from oHIGHo... Every since EZ died..they have sucked hard!!! I prefer Do or Die over them anyday...
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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2001, 08:00:13 AM »
although I hate most of the rap/hiphop/rmb ( Im a trance/techno person:D) music I have great respect for 2pac, I actually like many of his songs! :)

But you are right, people like eminem and likes just plain suck
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