Halo is looking good!

ethen, i gave THREE criteria for Halo to impress me

i am far from a fool, as you have guessed all along, and i DO love games, BUT theres far too many these days for me to waste my time on non A+ titles

did you even read my post?  

please dont use me as a punching bag, when i denounce someone claims that Halo is a great game and that it will be "game of the year"

For a console FPS, Halo is just fine.  Compared to a PC FPS, Halo comes up short.  The problem isn\'t that the game sucks, it\'s just lacking a lot of things that we all hoped it would be.  We all wanted an expandable game with many many online options with huge 30 person servers running on an X-Box console through broadband at a constant 60FPS a second.  We all wanted a game that was uninhindered by lag or framerate that leveled the playing field between hardcore PC users and the casual PC user.  X-Box and Halo offered that such possibility and then the things that we most wanted from the game were snatched away.

No online play.
60FPS is not constant.
Max players at once is 4.

How can I not feel dissapointed?  With so many possibilities, why must I now wait for the PC version in which it was originally intended?  Single player games are fine, but for FPS\' I honestly never feel the need to revisit them.  Especially when I know all the secrets and traps and plot elements.  Half-Life was a great game, but it was even better after its online portion (TFC, CS, DoD, DM) came together and sent the series into overdrive.  Now a sequel is imminent as well as many spin-offs of its modifications.

It\'s possible Halo will be the same on the X-Box, but it will never be as grand in scope as it will be on the PC and that\'s what\'s dissapointing.  For the better game with the extra features I want, I need to wait for the PC version, but for the single player game, I can spill 500 bucks on a bundle with Halo included.  Thank but no thanks, I\'d rather have my Keyboard\\Mouse combo instead of fighting a slow turning game controller with too few buttons and features for me to enjoy the title to its fullest.

That\'s just me though.  Don\'t think this opinion is solely focused at Halo though, I feel the same way about Red Faction, TimeSplitters and to an extent, Medal of Honor, even though MoH is the best FPS for a console to date.

Originally posted by mm
how many people do u think have a flatscreen or digital TV, 5% of the population?

the market isnt ready for digital TV\'s.  remember minidisks?

yes, 100 FPS

1.5 gig Pentium 4 + Geforce 3 = sweet 3D love

*oh, and gamepads + 1st or 3rd person shooters = lame

the XBOX BETTER accept USB plugins like a mouse to play shooters

**xbox, have u played halo, and its great huh?  if not please open mouth, and remove foot

ok here is my spec\'s

1.4 Gig Athlon , TNT2 (but going to get either a Ge force 3 or Radion 2)

A Whole load of Ram and other app\'s

Hmmmmmmmm

Chance of me getting a X box to run it at 30 fps rather than well over 60fps when i up grade my GFX Card on my PC.

ZERO.

i think M$ have shown there weakness to the entire world with is game.

Yup get people to buy your console when you can just up grade your PC and play the same games only faste, better and ONLINE.





oh and finally

HALO to be game of the year ?

Well

Game on of the year on the PC anyway.:rolleyes:

Because thats the format that i am goingto buy this game for

even though MoH is the best FPS for a console to date

AMEN!

MOH owns EVERY other console FPS out there

Originally posted by IronFist

First of all, don\'t generalize me into a group who thinks Halo sucks, because I don\'t think that at all.  I was just showing how it would be a lot better if it had online play.  Sure, single player is fun for a little while, but without playing against lots of other poeple, the game gets old.  Yes, Red Faction and Quake III got old quickly because I was used to playing FPS games online.  Timesplitters would have been a lot better if it was online too, but it was still a great multiplayer game just like Halo can still be a great multiplayer game.  Until console FPSs go online, they will never be comparable to the computer versions of the same name.

I think a big reason why people bash Halo is because of what Microsoft hyped it up to be.  The Xbox is a console that is designed for online play, yet they won\'t have online play until next spring at the earliest (I\'m a little skeptical about that date...).  Halo not being online, and not having a chance to go online (I remember the developers saying there were no plans to have a patch or anything to make it online compatible) is a blow to all the people looking forward to what this game was going to be.

You have not even played Halo. YOu just throwing that online thing in there because that is the only shot you can take at the game. The fact is Halo has been getting raved reviews all over the net for being a awesome game. I mean Ironfist you never critisize anything sony does. What fps on ps2 has had online play?????

Halo was redesigned to be a console fps and everyone is saying it rocks. Geesh you act as if every ps2 game is perfect. I mean you and MM try to find everything wrong in everyother system but not whats wrong in ps2. MM maybe a one dementional gamer now. But I at least thought you ironfist was multi-console.

IronFist[/1]  It doesn\'t live up to the hype, but it is great none the less

Unless y0u got some kind of ms connection and you where able to get your hands on and xbox and complete halo how could you say something like that????

Originally posted by Ryu
For a console FPS, Halo is just fine.  Compared to a PC FPS, Halo comes up short.  The problem isn\'t that the game sucks, it\'s just lacking a lot of things that we all hoped it would be.  We all wanted an expandable game with many many online options with huge 30 person servers running on an X-Box console through broadband at a constant 60FPS a second.  We all wanted a game that was uninhindered by lag or framerate that leveled the playing field between hardcore PC users and the casual PC user.  X-Box and Halo offered that such possibility and then the things that we most wanted from the game were snatched away.

No online play.
60FPS is not constant.
Max players at once is 4.

How can I not feel dissapointed?  With so many possibilities, why must I now wait for the PC version in which it was originally intended?  Single player games are fine, but for FPS\' I honestly never feel the need to revisit them.  Especially when I know all the secrets and traps and plot elements.  Half-Life was a great game, but it was even better after its online portion (TFC, CS, DoD, DM) came together and sent the series into overdrive.  Now a sequel is imminent as well as many spin-offs of its modifications.

It\'s possible Halo will be the same on the X-Box, but it will never be as grand in scope as it will be on the PC and that\'s what\'s dissapointing.  For the better game with the extra features I want, I need to wait for the PC version, but for the single player game, I can spill 500 bucks on a bundle with Halo included.  Thank but no thanks, I\'d rather have my Keyboard\\Mouse combo instead of fighting a slow turning game controller with too few buttons and features for me to enjoy the title to its fullest.

That\'s just me though.  Don\'t think this opinion is solely focused at Halo though, I feel the same way about Red Faction, TimeSplitters and to an extent, Medal of Honor, even though MoH is the best FPS for a console to date.

That is the big problem right there. This version of halo was not ment to be online. It was redesigned as a console fps. You may have wanted all those online options but this version of halo was not ment to have those. And just because you may love halo with all the online options you could ask for. There is no reason that this new version of halo doesn\'t rock. I don\'t think halo would be getting such good impressions if it sucked or came up short. Your just seeing it as a online fps and not a console fps.

Originally posted by mm
ethen, i gave THREE criteria for Halo to impress me

i am far from a fool

,

Dude i know you are far from a fool, i just thought we was having a little arguement:D

No hard feelings?

Originally posted by QuDDus



That is the big problem right there. This version of halo was not ment to be online. It was redesigned as a console fps. You may have wanted all those online options but this version of halo was not ment to have those. And just because you may love halo with all the online options you could ask for. There is no reason that this new version of halo doesn\'t rock. I don\'t think halo would be getting such good impressions if it sucked or came up short. Your just seeing it as a online fps and not a console fps.

I think you will find thatr one of the main points that RYU has with the X box version of HALO is NO ONLINE SUPPORT OR GAMEPLAY.

Is that now this seams very for one of the FLAGSHIP XBOX games and to have this feature redundent has to be a poor choice indeed.

remember on of the features that the xbox has is being internet ready from out of the box (no pun intended) and a Hard drive for updates , patches and nice M.OD\'s


now to have this feature to be ignored seams very strange indeed.

maybe they decided that most Xbox owners wont want the feature off online multiplayer games ?

VERY strange indeed.

So to re-cap

the Xbox version of HALO will

Not have online support/ games
and Run at 30 fps
HAVE TO USE THE NASTY CONTROLER


the PC version will

have online support (patches addons, updates and M O D S /
 games
Run far inexcess of 60 fps withthe correct upgrades.
Mouse and keyboard support

Call me a fool but i know which one ill be buying.

Halo is one of my most wanted xbox games.  I ready to play another awesome FPS!!!!!!

QuDDus, you are bashing my opinion because I was saying Halo was a good console FPS?  I just don\'t get you sometimes...

You have not even played Halo. YOu just throwing that online thing in there because that is the only shot you can take at the game.

I was throwing that online thing in there because that is what it was originally going to have.  The game did not live up to the hype because Microsoft\'s network is not ready.

The fact is Halo has been getting raved reviews all over the net for being a awesome game. I mean Ironfist you never critisize anything sony does. What fps on ps2 has had online play?????

Here\'s a better question: What PS2 fps has claimed they would have online play?  

I mean you and MM try to find everything wrong in everyother system but not whats wrong in ps2.

And you try to find everything wrong with the PS2 and not in the Xbox.  *gasp* :eek:

But I at least thought you ironfist was multi-console.

I guess you missed it.  I announced that I was an official Sony fanboy until the other consoles were worth buying. :rolleyes:


IronFist: It doesn\'t live up to the hype, but it is great none the less

QuDDus:Unless y0u got some kind of ms connection and you where able to get your hands on and xbox and complete halo how could you say something like that????

Like I said before, it doesn\'t live up to the hype.  I remember when they were first showing the game.  It was in 3rd person view and they claim one person could drive around in a car while the other person could shoot from the back seat.  It was going to be an awesome multiplayer game that required teamwork to defeat your apponents in Deathmatch.  Not any more.  So much has changed from what it was originally going to be it\'s not even exciting anymore.

One thing wrong I have with your statements

Here\'s a better question: What PS2 fps has claimed they would have online play?

Halo FOR THE XBOX never claimed to be online.  PC version - yes of course it supposed to be online but the Xbox version.   Other than that I can see where your coming from.

Originally posted by ProfessorX
One thing wrong I have with your statements



Halo FOR THE XBOX never claimed to be online.  PC version - yes of course it supposed to be online but the Xbox version.   Other than that I can see where your coming from.

Halo for the Xbox was originally going to be online.  But when the developers found out Microsoft\'s online network wasn\'t going to be ready in time, they had to scratch those plans.

Don\'t you remember when they first announced that it wouldn\'t be online unlike what they previously thought?  Everyone was devistated.

EDIT:  I found this at TeamXbox.com.

Earlier today, Bungie\'s Matt Soell clarified the status of Halo\'s internet play on the Xbox. Halo\'s internet play has been a question speculating around the \'net for months. In response to a question made in Bungie\'s Halo forum, Matt had this to say:
Unfortunately it\'s not possible for us to code support for internet play without more info than we have now. So Xbox Halo won\'t magically work over the internet when MS gets their networking stuff up. I don\'t think a patch will happen either.

A separate product is a possibility, but as things stand right now there is no definite plan for such a product. The team gets to decide what they work on next, but they won\'t make that decision until Halo is done.

I should make clear that I\'m talking specifically about the Xbox version of Halo here.

And here are some peoples reactions:

all this talk about "giving gamers what they want",and they totally burn us by not giving us online games at launch. oh well,just another negative in the long line of mistakes by microsoft. sony,with their network going online this november, with 5 games,must be laughing right now.

well,they won\'t give us online support for their killer app,but at least they\'ll provide mouse and keyboard support.....ohhh,that\'s right,microsoft has banned the release of a mouse and keyboard. this is great microsoft. microsoft should remember,the object is to try and have their console get the MOST sales,not the LEAST. geniuses

Man, that is a disappointment. I was really wishing Halo would have online support

Feel free to read the rest here: http://www.teamxbox.com/news.php?id=1312&fc=1#14790

It\'s obvious that this board is filled with PS2 whores.  MM is the biggest Sony sucker I\'ve ever seen in my life.  MM, try not to make it obvious that you\'re bending over and taking it up the ass from Sony.  You\'re such a big PS2 hooker and you don\'t even try to hide it.  Anyone who denies Halos  greatness is a flat out, bonafide FANHO!

[Living-In-Clip]

Originally posted by DirectXbox
It\'s obvious that this board is filled with PS2 whores.  MM is the biggest Sony sucker I\'ve ever seen in my life.  MM, try not to make it obvious that you\'re bending over and taking it up the ass from Sony.  You\'re such a big PS2 hooker and you don\'t even try to hide it.  Anyone who denies Halos  greatness is a flat out, bonafide FANHO!

:rolleyes:

So an XBox "hooker" is calling someone a PS2 "hooker".. Am I the only one who see\'s something wrong with this?

By the way - until all of you have played final and complete versions of HALO all the way through, I think it is alittle premature and moronic to label it with "greatness".

Then again, I hate all FPS games for consoles.

Clip, suck it.  MM is a biased fool and you know it.  Why don\'t you take his **** out of your mouth and stand up like a man.