Damn you Sony!

"PS2 when the game has not been confirmed for the XBox yet.
Talk about having major problems with the brand Sony.
If I was your manager I\'d fire your ass for talking a customer out of buying something."

Hello, last year called. It wants its excuse back. Actually, it has been CONFIRMED by Hideo himself. Go to the konami.co.jp message boards. Go to Gamespot, go to IGN, etc. They have all confirmed it. Konami doesn\'t release press on it because it would hurt game sales of the current version, which has the potential to sell more. Does positive news about other consoles strike you with Alzheimers or something? You can probably find it on our board confirmed. BTW, MGS goes a little like this:

5 minutes gameplay
20 minutes of cutscene
wacky subplot...here.
20 minutes of cutscene
5minutes of gameplay
20 minutes of cutscene.

ad infinatium. The game is boring as hell and I don\'t know where you guys have been for the last 5-10 years, but gameplay has gotten much better than this. Perfect 10 my ass.


Why would you fire my ass? Because you don\'t understand? Probably. We sell units at cost, so we don\'t make any money on selling a console. We make on games and accessories. So when a guy says he is buying a PS2 JUST for MGS2, and I tell him of all the Sega titles that are coming for XBox, it has the potential to make us more money. It is simple economics really.


Dreamcast is dead? Funny, I JUST bought another one today. It seemed to be working an hour ago, let me go check by putting in Shenmue, the GREATEST GAME EVER.


Eric Jacob

"PS2 when the game has not been confirmed for the XBox yet.
Talk about having major problems with the brand Sony.
If I was your manager I\'d fire your ass for talking a customer out of buying something."

Hello, last year called. It wants its excuse back. Actually, it has been CONFIRMED by Hideo himself. Go to the konami.co.jp message boards. Go to Gamespot, go to IGN, etc. They have all confirmed it. Konami doesn\'t release press on it because it would hurt game sales of the current version, which has the potential to sell more. Does positive news about other consoles strike you with Alzheimers or something? You can probably find it on our board confirmed.

Up to my knowledge, nothings officially confirmed by Hideo or Konami. If this isn\'t the case, please get me that link with the official press statement or comment by Hideo confirming otherwise.

5 minutes gameplay
20 minutes of cutscene
wacky subplot...here.
20 minutes of cutscene
5minutes of gameplay
20 minutes of cutscene.

ad infinatium. The game is boring as hell and I don\'t know where you guys have been for the last 5-10 years, but gameplay has gotten much better than this. Perfect 10 my ass.

Not suprised at all to hear this from a Sega fanboy. I heard it all days while Dreamcast was still up in the console wars.

Dreamcast is dead? Funny, I JUST bought another one today. It seemed to be working an hour ago, let me go check by putting in Shenmue, the GREATEST GAME EVER.

Dreamcast is dead, get over it Eric. Productions have been stopped, their only selling the rest to get rid of the already produced ones. Don\'t act like a dumbass.

the DC is not dead

i find in infantile for you guys to try and shove it down out throats

when the last DC game gets released, THEN it may be dead technically, but i can keep on playing to my hearts content

lest you guys forget that sega paved the way for online console gaming

Originally posted by mm
the DC is not dead

i find in infantile for you guys to try and shove it down out throats

when the last DC game gets released, THEN it may be dead technically, but i can keep on playing to my hearts content.

Software may be still in development, but not for long. With "DC is dead" none other then the console itself is ment. It\'s just a matter of time until the software stops. And by the way, DC being "dead" is not ment to offend any of you fanboys outthere - DC is still a great system none the less.

lest you guys forget that sega paved the way for online console gaming

Hardly. The might have been the first to get it out, but online would have came anyway with the PS2. It\'s not Sega being "innovative", but rather just to first to get it out on the market.

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
"PS2 when the game has not been confirmed for the XBox yet.
Talk about having major problems with the brand Sony.
If I was your manager I\'d fire your ass for talking a customer out of buying something."

Hello, last year called. It wants its excuse back. Actually, it has been CONFIRMED by Hideo himself. Go to the konami.co.jp message boards. Go to Gamespot, go to IGN, etc. They have all confirmed it. Konami doesn\'t release press on it because it would hurt game sales of the current version, which has the potential to sell more. Does positive news about other consoles strike you with Alzheimers or something? You can probably find it on our board confirmed. BTW, MGS goes a little like this:

5 minutes gameplay
20 minutes of cutscene
wacky subplot...here.
20 minutes of cutscene
5minutes of gameplay
20 minutes of cutscene.

ad infinatium. The game is boring as hell and I don\'t know where you guys have been for the last 5-10 years, but gameplay has gotten much better than this. Perfect 10 my ass.


Why would you fire my ass? Because you don\'t understand? Probably. We sell units at cost, so we don\'t make any money on selling a console. We make on games and accessories. So when a guy says he is buying a PS2 JUST for MGS2, and I tell him of all the Sega titles that are coming for XBox, it has the potential to make us more money. It is simple economics really.


Eric Jacob

First of all, how the hell is that different from Shenmue? Huh?
Shenmue is 20 min cut scene, 1 min cutscene/gameplay where you push A or B button. Oh damn, so much gameplay there. IMO you\'re being very inconsistent in judging gameplay from cut scenes when comparing these two games.

I don\'t know about MGS2 being confirmed for X-Box coz you and DocWiz are the only ones claiming it has. Last interview I read with Kojima he said he wasn\'t even thinking of other consoles atm.

And like you put him off buying a PS2 coz you don\'t make money on consoles. It\'s highly likely he\'d buy more software than just MGS2 for it. I\'m pretty certain you didn\'t put him off it coz of the economics.

Originally posted by AlteredBeast

 let me go check by putting in Shenmue, the GREATEST GAME EVER.


Eric Jacob

Sega Fanboy hard at work, kissing ass to a less than appealing game

Originally posted by IronFist

Obviously.  Most of us love Sony and our PS2s.  Just like some of us love our Dreamcasts and Sega.  What\'s wrong with that?

If someone bashes your favorite basketball/football/baseball team, are you going to stand up for it?  If someone starts talking trash about your favorite car, are you going to stand up for it?  If someone starts trash talking your mamma, are you going to stand up for her?

Well I personally don\'t give a sh*t about Sony\'s business tactics or their legal troubles. The thing that caughtmy attention in this thread is that people are not defending Sony\'s games or their system, but rather their business tactics.

You bought a Sony system and now you find yourself having to justify their business tactics? That\'s \'loyalty\' for you.

Originally posted by Bozco


Sega Fanboy hard at work, kissing ass to a less than appealing game

Just like a bunch of Sony fanboys defending their favorite company.

What exactly is your point?

Seems some people can\'t accept a differing opinion without moaning about how they\'re wrong and their fave game or company sucks.

And people complain about Tshirts bashing Devil May Cry and Twisted Metal Black and the PS2.

And people complain about Tshirts bashing Devil May Cry and Twisted Metal Black and the PS2.

Well if he was a level-headed non-anti Sony gamer then we would give him some credit. But when you come here and 99.9% of your posts are anti-ps2 related, what would you expect?

I respect people\'s opinions as long as I respect the person. Do I want to drive to Nebraska tie Beasty up to my bumper and drag him around for his statements about MG? Yes. But I respect that he doesn\'t like it. Some people feel the same exact way about Shenmue, and while I understand why they don\'t like it, I loved every second of it. Even the repetitive parts. Same goes for MGS. To me, MGS and Shenmue are above all else.

Err, what was my point again? Oh well.

/ dm /

Originally posted by datamage


Well if he was a level-headed non-anti Sony gamer then we would give him some credit. But when you come here and 99.9% of your posts are anti-ps2 related, what would you expect?

I respect people\'s opinions as long as I respect the person. Do I want to drive to Nebraska tie Beasty up to my bumper and drag him around for his statements about MG? Yes. But I respect that he doesn\'t like it. Some people feel the same exact way about Shenmue, and while I understand why they don\'t like it, I loved every second of it. Even the repetitive parts. Same goes for MGS. To me, MGS and Shenmue are above all else.

Err, what was my point again? Oh well.

/ dm /

I don\'t have a problem with people disliking Shenmue or Sega.

The problem is when people have to bash it just because others are praising it. Like mm said, we don\'t need to you cramming it down our throats. What place does a post like "Shenmue sucks" have in a thread about the possibility of Shenmue 2 being released in the US? Or "DC is dead" in a thread about bleem! vs Sony?

What place does a post like "Shenmue sucks" have in a thread about the possibility of Shenmue 2 being released in the US? Or "DC is dead" in a thread about bleem! vs Sony?

You are absolutely right. Which is why I shouldn\'t have replied to anything to begin with. I hate when conversations stray from the topic.

/ dm /

Dang, that was a fast reply. I just typed mine.

http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/news/0,10870,2630903,00.html

http://www.konami.co.jp/cs/new/pngsdw/ns-xb.html (hope you have japanese text turned on)

booya.


Eric Jacob

Originally posted by Ashford


Just like a bunch of Sony fanboys defending their favorite company.

What exactly is your point?

Seems some people can\'t accept a differing opinion without moaning about how they\'re wrong and their fave game or company sucks.

And people complain about Tshirts bashing Devil May Cry and Twisted Metal Black and the PS2.

What does the Sony fanboy post have anything to do with what I said, are you saying I\'m a PS2 fanboy, and I know its just my opinion but thats hilarious saying its the BEST GAME EVER

Shenmue has far more gameplay and is far longer of a game. Also, the cutscenes (such as dreams, death sequence, etc.) Set the story up. Their are hundreds if fewer cutscenes in Shenmue, while the last 2 hours of MGS2 is about 90% cutscene, and if you have beaten it, you know I am not joking.

possible spoliers*


After the virus is loaded and you are walking through the stomach, colon, etc. You HAVE to answer the codecs, many of which contain stupid pointless references to MGS, make no sense at all, and others that waste your time. Plus when Emma dies and all that stuff happens you are watching cutscene for like a straight half hour. That game puts me to sleep.

Good graphics, though, I must say. I was doing cartwheels with Raiden when he is naked and he has nothing down there!




Eric Jacob