what if bin laden.....

Originally posted by Vapor Snake
No what separates America from say, Sweden? History. America has the greatest history in the world.

Damn you\'re ignorant. :rolleyes:

it suprises me how ignorant and patriotic some amercans can be.

Face it boys, you aren\'t the greatest anymore. You might have a good army but when it controlled by morons it doesn\'t work

Im with samewise here

[CHIZZY]

I\'m a very patriotic man, but that IS an ignorant statement.
(this is exactly why other countries think we\'re all brick-headed cowboys.

Originally posted by ddaryl
Never trust the goverment NEVER

Except for when they tell us they won\'t raise taxes.  You can believe them then.

And as an aside, no one really liked Big Brother the tv show, either.

-Eik

Originally posted by Metal_Gear_Ray
it suprises me how ignorant and patriotic some amercans can be.

Face it boys, you aren\'t the greatest anymore. You might have a good army but when it controlled by morons it doesn\'t work

Im with samewise here

Yeah me too.

Im English so a blow to Sweden is a blow to Europe which in turn is a blow to England.

Seriously what is America thinking. All these media hyped words and phrases like "a war on terrosim". It wasn\'t like America were really that bothered in stopping terrorism before September 11th.

Also does anyone notice how before these events Bush was concided well not totally trustworthy or whatever. He was a fairly new person on the scene. Now you can\'t have a bad word said against him because for some reason everyone seems to think him bombing a third world country is the best decision America has seen in years.

As for England well Tony Blair should have kept right the hell away from America in this one. Ok standing side by side is one thing but we are pretty much in this as much as the Americans are now. They should have just shown as much support as the other countries did.

As for America leaving that nuclear missile treaty thing well that is a step backwards in a "war against terrosim" but a step forward in give Americans some power.

Originally posted by RichG


Seriously what is America thinking. All these media hyped words and phrases like "a war on terrosim". It wasn\'t like America were really that bothered in stopping terrorism before September 11th.

ummm dude actually if i remember correctly there are several big terrorists groups that dont exist anymore thanks to USA - im sorry if i cant remember their names and stuff but i remember learning that in history in high school - lol those 3 years ago - so anyway i remeber learning that we bombed some terrorists palace/house when he wasnt expected and eliminated the guy or something like that - there has also been many other groups - just these people werent terrorizing you so you didnt hear about it

but anyway i know there are a lot of people out there that think Americans are careless and illogical and ignorant - i have to say that you should not stereotype us as we should not you - i hate it when i read a post that states a posters ideal and they say americans and not the specific person - it offends me - i mean i have pride in my country as i am sure you guys have pride in your countries - its just like say your fav sport team - you ll stand up for em no matter what - when they lose or do something stupid you are behind them - even when they win a game they shouldnt on a bad call - it doesnt matter you are glad they won by any means

anyway all im trying to say is to chill on the america bashing - its annoying and rude

I wasn\'t really America bashing. Im sorry if you felt I was. No offense meant.

I simply think that Bush has way crossed the line on this one.

Originally posted by Sublimesjg



ummm dude actually if i remember correctly there are several big terrorists groups that dont exist anymore thanks to USA - im sorry if i cant remember their names and stuff but i remember learning that in history in high school - lol those 3 years ago - so anyway i remeber learning that we bombed some terrorists palace/house when he wasnt expected and eliminated the guy or something like that - there has also been many other groups - just these people werent terrorizing you so you didnt hear about it
 

Yeah.. That guy with the courly hair and shades.. He has a white general “cap” aswell..
Damn forgot his name..

Anyways he went underground when the US bombed some training houses or something.. (I think he was from Libya)
He\'s/His group [is] still active.. But not in a big scale like before.

Anyways you can never defeat terrorism.. It will always be there and we can never protect ourselves against it.

Originally posted by Samwise
Damn you\'re ignorant. :rolleyes:

I second that.

Ryu: Russia lost about 50 000 troops I think. (not 100 sure)

[CHIZZY]

Originally posted by RichG
I wasn\'t really America bashing. Im sorry if you felt I was. No offense meant.

I simply think that Bush has way crossed the line on this one.

None taken, but I think if you look at who\'s standing next to him, you\'d see a familiar face.  

I know I know. As I said in my original thread I think Mr Blair as made a mistake getting involved as much as he did. He should have just showed his support like the other countries did.

Hey guys. I wasn\'t trying to start a US vs. war - my comment was only meant for Vapor Snake. With such a comment he shows no signs of intelligence or argumentation skills. It\'s like saying "Denmark is the best country in the world!111"... useless. And comparing the history of a country (in this case the US) to another the history of another country which he doesn\'t even know about (!) is just plain lame. Don\'t even let me get started on the "some guy who liked snow etc." thing.

Let me tell you this mr. Snake. You\'re comparing a \'few\' hundred years of history to countries that has existed for thousands of years. If I was you I would just stop there. :eek:

[CHIZZY]

I don\'t know man, I think he rocks! To average American joe like me his action says " Thanks for helping us out in WWII..."

(not that I\'m one of those "we saved yer a$$es " types)  


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samwise sneaked one in rich!  

And America hasn\'t been around for 1000 years? What was there, just a vast blue ocean and all of a sudden land emerged from the sea? I\'m sure the Natives probably had a long history as well. Until we ran in and stole it from them.

Heck, I\'m not even 100% American. No one really is. I\'m 50%Spanish (SPAIN!) and 50% Deutsch. America is just a blend of the world in a large landmass i.e. "The Melting Pot"

I think it\'s messed up to say we\'re being run by idiots. Cuz\' that\'s like calling Americans idiots for voting and choosing these people. So your really targeting all Americans in general.

And someone made a comment about how Briton shouldn\'t help. That\'s so selfish. Dammit we are constantly "policing" the world and doing are best (as hopeless as it may be sometimes) to bring peace and resolve (bush "word") to places that need desperate help. We have the most active military in the world, cuz\' we always have some country that needs help. Briton better damn help, you know why? Cuz\' Osama Bin Laden\'s target isn\'t only America. It\'s the Western World in general. Any non-Islam country that poses as a superpower is a target. So Briton is definately on Bin Laden\'s "Things to do" list.

Originally posted by Vapor Snake
And America hasn\'t been around for 1000 years? What was there, just a vast blue ocean and all of a sudden land emerged from the sea? I\'m sure the Natives probably had a long history as well. Until we ran in and stole it from them.

But little to none of it is recorded, so thats a moot point.

I think it\'s messed up to say we\'re being run by idiots. Cuz\' that\'s like calling Americans idiots for voting and choosing these people. So your really targeting all Americans in general.

If the shoe fits......
America is run by a bunch of dumbass\' for the most part. Bush appointed the rest of the morons, so technically we really didnt vote for them.

And someone made a comment about how Briton shouldn\'t help. That\'s so selfish. Dammit we are constantly "policing" the world and doing are best (as hopeless as it may be sometimes) to bring peace and resolve (bush "word") to places that need desperate help. We have the most active military in the world, cuz\' we always have some country that needs help. Briton better damn help, you know why? Cuz\' Osama Bin Laden\'s target isn\'t only America. It\'s the Western World in general. Any non-Islam country that poses as a superpower is a target. So Briton is definately on Bin Laden\'s "Things to do" list.

If the US minded its own F\'n business for once, maybe they wouldnt be as hated by so many people, including the ones they "help". All of the help Britain or any other country should do is show moral support by voicing their opinions and leaving it at that.

I agree that sometimes we should mind our own business. It\'s foolish of us to put our fat American asses into a war thats been raging for thousands of years. I\'ve probably said this before, but I"m gonna say it again:

1. Capture Bin Laden, rid of as many Al Queda and Taliban forces as possible.

2. Throw some cash at Israel and Palestine and let them kill each other cuz\' that is what they do during breakfast, lunch and dinner.

3. Build a massive wall of steel all around the border line of the continental U.S. 10 miles thick, 35,000 feet high. With large mechanical doors that the FAA can use to allow planes to enter only if they\'re safe. (Hawaii and Alaska, your on your own, sorry)

4. Destroy CNN to hell. No more news on what is going outside our massive steel wall, only local news and U.S. news.

5. Create a secret and massive pipeline that connects to the middle east and drain them of all their oil.



Or the old fashion way and conquer the world  .