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« on: January 24, 2002, 03:56:27 AM »
According to This CNET article,

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X-Box is costing Microsoft money...
That\'s because Microsoft is selling each console for less than it costs to manufacture--a widely copied practice in the video game business. Makers of game consoles typically count on sales of their own software and licensing revenue from third-party software to partly subsidize the cost of making game machines.


I guess Microsoft thinks they\'ll make it up with volume.. BWUHAHAHAHA!  


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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2002, 04:17:43 AM »
it took 2 years for sony to get a Profit from the PS2

so i guess that it will take just as long for the X box.

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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2002, 08:52:17 AM »
I can\'t help but think you posted this just to start a little flame war...I mean, there\'s nothing to debate about it.  

Yes, they are losing money, just like every other console launch in history.

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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2002, 09:36:45 AM »
What is up with you lately mm?  Fist it was the controller that you curse at EVERY opportunity and now you bring up the completely obvious?  It does seem like you are looking for trouble.
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2002, 10:13:32 AM »
cant have an all PS2 forum, no fun eh?
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2002, 10:22:50 AM »
hehe M$ have to wait untill the profits rolls in. Maybe he can find a way to close the time frame.  ;)
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2002, 10:54:08 AM »
They don\'t expect to make any profits until 5 years from launch.  MS also said they\'d take a $1billion loss until that time.

You gotta spend money to make more money.

I have a strong feeling that Xbox will be MS\'s first and final venture into the console world - a la Dreamcast. Why? By that time, PS3 will be on the news(but not on the shelf - I have a feeling PS2 will last up to 6 years).
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2002, 12:21:52 PM »
Great insight Gman, absolutely no logic applied though.

If the xbox lasts 5 years there is no way they will still have a 1 billion dollar deficit.  MS doesn\'t plan to lose 1 billion, that is the worst case scenario.  By year 5 (worst case scenario) the xbox will pull out of the red and start making money with everything they sell.  More likely, MS will start making money (cutting into their deficit) by the end of year two or three (the hardware itself will be far cheaper, the nvidia chip alone will be $50 by that time)--this is how the console market works.

If the xbox is around by year 5, it\'ll have a huge userbase and will have been profitable per console for a number of years (the xbox project as a whole may still be in the red though).  It just might take 5 years to make up for losses incured over that time.

Also, if the PS3 is announced, chances are the xbox2 will be too and both will be on the news in the same stories.  Again, if the xbox has made it to the 5 year mark there will be a significant number of loyalists and fanchise games to make xbox2 just as appealing as PS3.

You could argue that the xbox will die in 2-3 years and that is possible.  But to say that it\'ll last 5 years and then die isn\'t very logical.

There is a quote from MS that said something like MS doesn\'t dabble in anything they do, when they go into a market they expect to dominate and usually do.  MS is too sharp and proud a company to fail, cower and back out.  For the most part, everything they\'ve done up to this point has been perfect; they\'ve made good decisions and executed well.  The market has responded.  I see no real reason to predict that xbox will fail or that xbox2 won\'t see release.

You use the DC as an example--this make little sense also.  Sega was a company with a storied history of failure--MS has no such history, actually the two companies are polar opposites.  At the six month market there were signs of a Sega collapse and people in the indsutry and news were whispering that the Sega was in trouble and going to back out.  A year and a half later they did. So far there have been no such reports and people in the industry and on the news predict very good things from MS.  People on forums and newsgroups are the only ones predicting failure and doom as they take a time out from their PS2.
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2002, 01:32:15 PM »
Yes it is true they are selling the X-box for less then it costs to make it. However the X-box is such a superior gaming system that once more and more games come out for it, the profits will start.

The PS2 is finally starting to turn a profit due largely to the size of it\'s game library. Once the X-Box has a huge library of games available it will surpass any game system on the planet
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2002, 01:39:15 PM »
ok, so only pstwo caught my drift?

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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2002, 02:26:07 PM »
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What is up with you lately mm?  Fist it was the controller that you curse at EVERY opportunity and now you bring up the completely obvious?  It does seem like you are looking for trouble.


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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2002, 02:50:37 PM »
Yes, hm.
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2002, 03:52:42 PM »
its not an "issue" anymore

its a frickin attrocity

shame on Bungee, i got the "most advanced console on earth :rolleyes:" , and it cant run halo at 60 fps?  

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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2002, 05:59:26 PM »
troll.
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2002, 06:06:05 PM »
lmao!  i believe thats the 1st person to ever call me a troll

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