I will have to agree, the PS2 has yet to see it\'s prime in games, especially with games like "Xenogears" on the horizon. But, if I were to give a couple of examples of what games I think push the PS2 a bit, I would say MGS2, FFX, GT3, Baulders Gate DA (the water was pretty cool), and J&D. I know that there are many great games that could be listed, it\'s just so hard to pick.