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Offline Ginko
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2002, 08:06:56 AM »
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i dont remember anyone saying that stuff
at least not on my forum


comparing the PS2 to what?  the PS1?  the DC?  the N64?
the PS2 was groundbreaking in all regards

the xbox and GC just pushed the envelope farther

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this thread is about insulting npyyz, lets keep out argument about PS2 vs xbox elsewhere  :)


Yah, Ridge Racer 5 and TTT were really groundbreaking...oh, I forgot Fantavision...

Anyway, the PS2 didn\'t get any big games until Rayman 2 released in Jan, then Devil May Cry in March and GT3 in June...This was way back when DC was still lively and all the fanboys came in here saying how the games looked the same blah blah blah...Your right, this isn\'t the place to get into it...:)
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2002, 08:08:53 AM »
yer listing software when i mentioned hardware

the DC [my true console love] was the only console to have lots of A+ launch titles, and look where that got it!

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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2002, 08:11:21 AM »
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there are still XBox groupies insisting Square will join Xbox..

this is but one example..

i dont remember the PS2 being quite the same, although i do see your point.. [/B]


It\'s just wishful thinking...I wouldn\'t argue over it.  

Where is NYYPZ?? This needs to get back on track...
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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2002, 08:14:04 AM »
but you missed the whole point of the excercise dammit!!

bah..  fine, where is the little tyke?
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2002, 08:14:16 AM »
Yeah, but by the same Token mm, If Sega had pushed the Dreamcast in the same way they did with the Genesis things might not have turned out that way. Sega made a lot of fukkups this generation. The hardware and the games were what they really got right. I\'d say the Dreamcast did pretty damned well considering the opposition and it\'s backing.
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« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2002, 08:16:27 AM »
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Originally posted by mm
yer listing software when i mentioned hardware

the DC [my true console love] was the only console to have lots of A+ launch titles, and look where that got it!

:P


*Bows head in remembrance...

PS2 was heavily compared to DC when it first arrived...In fact some games were touted as being below DC standards...In what way was PS2 truly groundbreaking??
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2002, 09:01:30 AM »
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*Bows head in remembrance...

PS2 was heavily compared to DC when it first arrived...In fact some games were touted as being below DC standards...In what way was PS2 truly groundbreaking??

And some DC games were below N64 standards.  That means nothing.  Just looking at the top games of each system, the PS2 was ahead.  I wouldn\'t consider the PS2 launch ground breaking (actually, I wouldn\'t consider any console launch ground breaking, because IMO none of them ever have been), but the PS2 launch was still very good.
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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2002, 09:04:16 AM »
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And some DC games were below N64 standards.  That means nothing.  Just looking at the top games of each system, the PS2 was ahead.  I wouldn\'t consider the PS2 launch ground breaking (actually, I wouldn\'t consider any console launch ground breaking, because IMO none of them ever have been), but the PS2 launch was still very good.


I know this, I was just making a point...

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Just looking at the top games of each system, the PS2 was ahead


??  Care to provide some examples or elaborate on this idea?
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« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2002, 09:41:14 AM »
ok, i am a newbie on this site, i got my ps2 early this year, and its a damn good system, the one and only reason why i didn\'t pick the xbox was because the ps2 had more games currently and more upcoming games that i wanted.  the xbox is a great system, it has really nice graphics because of its GPU and a built in HD, that is just plain nice.  the system has great potential, but until i see that great potential, i am sticking with the ps2.
and for those that use the "graphics are WAY better on the xbox than ps2" arguement, all i have to say is, STFU!!  look at the psone, i dont care what anybody says, the graphics on that system suck ass, but is the console still around?  do they still make games for it?  it beat the N64 and DC, its like 8 years old now, and people still love it, what does that say?  people dont give a rats ass about graphics, its all in the game content.
the xbox also has to earn some respect in the business, like how sony has with the psone.  if M$ can sell 20million+ xboxs by the beginning of next year, they got my respect.
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« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2002, 09:48:17 AM »
Well this is just my opinion, but I was talking about graphically.  TTT/DOA2:HC beats any fighting game on the Dreamcast.  Timesplitters beats any FPS on the Dreamcast.  SSX probably beats any snowboarding game on the Dreamcast (was there even a snowboarding game on the Dreamcast?  Heh. ;))  I think the loads of crap on the PS2 launch is what gave it the "PS2 is worse than Dreamcast" reputation, but there were a few standout games that look nice even to this day.
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« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2002, 10:10:25 AM »
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Well this is just my opinion, but I was talking about graphically.  TTT/DOA2:HC beats any fighting game on the Dreamcast.  Timesplitters beats any FPS on the Dreamcast.  SSX probably beats any snowboarding game on the Dreamcast (was there even a snowboarding game on the Dreamcast?  Heh. ;))  I think the loads of crap on the PS2 launch is what gave it the "PS2 is worse than Dreamcast" reputation, but there were a few standout games that look nice even to this day.


I heard the DOA 2 games looked pratically identical...Either way this has strayed off topic.

The debate I was trying to make was in game content on or around PS2 launch...it was lackluster to say the least.  I didn\'t see why Xbox owners shouldn\'t say "Wait till E3", "Wait a few more months", etc. as mm had stated.  The system has already eclipsed the PS2 graphically (as did the PS2 to the DC) and now we wait for more games.  That\'s exactly how the PS2 went about, why should it be a different story for Xbox...

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if M$ can sell 20million+ xboxs by the beginning of next year, they got my respect.


You mean in 21 months...the PS2 has been out since March 2000.  PS2 hit a little over 10 million in one full year, hopefully Xbox can hit this also...
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« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2002, 10:17:55 AM »
i dont see the xbox eclipsing the PS2 graphically

a year aside in technology, i dont see it impossible to not put halo on the PS2.  they couldnt even get it to run at 60 FPS on the xbox.  what kinds of powerhouse console was the xbox "supposed" to be

oh snap!  im bashing the xbox again  see what you went and made me do  :P

like i said, PS2 raised the bar for console graphics, the xbox pushed it a little farther ahead, but not higher
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« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2002, 10:23:27 AM »
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i dont see the xbox eclipsing the PS2 graphically

a year aside in technology, i dont see it impossible to not put halo on the PS2.  they couldnt even get it to run at 60 FPS on the xbox.  what kinds of powerhouse console was the xbox "supposed" to be

oh snap!  im bashing the xbox again  see what you went and made me do  :P

like i said, PS2 raised the bar for console graphics, the xbox pushed it a little farther ahead, but not higher


That\'s just it, Halo is out right now on Xbox and is graphically superior.  Wreckless is out right now and it\'s amazing to look at...

I don\'t think PS2 raised the bar, just pushed it like Xbox.  Like I said earlier, the games at PS2 launch weren\'t that impressive or set apart from DC.  It wasn\'t until just recently (GT3, J&D, FFX, MGS2) that the PS2 has start to show what it can do.
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« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2002, 10:30:13 AM »
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« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2002, 10:32:56 AM »
but you have to think in terms of time

PS2 was launched in japan when, early 2000?  shouldnt we have expected the graphics to be a little less then what we have in 2002?  we cant make excuses for the xbox.  we should expect more.  a 300$ early 2000 console vs a VERY late 300$ 2001 console?

the PS2 launch games were way past what the DC offered

SSx, Kessen, Summoner, Timesplitters, etc
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