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« Reply #120 on: March 13, 2002, 06:53:51 AM »
^  im with this guy
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« Reply #121 on: March 13, 2002, 10:32:37 AM »
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Originally posted by Ginko


The PS2 has been out for 2 years, it wouldn\'t be a fair comparison.

The PS2 also had a hype around it built soley on PSX and its\' success.

Nice try though...




ahhhh but yet the PS2 has been around for two years but yet everyone still wants to debate the better hardware is Xbox and that the graphics are better on Xbox

well that really isnt a fair debate no is it - xbox is stronger therefore it has better graphic potential

PS2 was released before so it will have the user base edge

you cant claim one thing cant be compared but yet compare the other thing under the same circumstances - that would be double standards and we wouldnt want Alteredbeast to be upset now would we :)
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« Reply #122 on: March 13, 2002, 01:06:54 PM »
Seven I\'m not going to wade through all your posts looking to prove anything let alone the fact that you love your PS2 too much to admit the xbox is a great system.

I said you can\'t compare MGS to Halo because Halo is a much bigger, longer, and complex game.  Halo does everything MGS does only with environments that are 10x as big, more varied, better textures, with twice as many enemies (that do interact and respond with excellent AI).  Halo doesn\'t throw you into a small room with half a dozen of the same enemy and restrict you the way MGS does.  MGS looks good, but the scope of the game and its engine isn\'t anyway comparable to Halo.  Just the physics engine alone in Halo is remarkable--I\'ve never seen a video of MGS like the Halo Jump video.  Because MGS engine doesn\'t give you that kind of freedom.

This is what I find laughable:

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You expect everyone to take your word and views on the hardware because what, you\'ve read some tech articles, joined a forum and have a computer science degree (if that). Well I\'ve done all those things too, but I\'m not arrogant enough to proclaim my views ahead of those whose job it is to rate and assess hardware. You love your PS2 so that you made it your life mission, well it\'s BS, and only those who hold their PS2s as closely and firmly to their chests as you do give you any serious merit.
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What are you trying to prove or debate? I find it laughable that everytime you start an arguement, you always try to prove how much I love my PS2. Isn\'t that a little pathetic?
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I summed up EXACTLY what you are and how you post.  The only reason you get away with all the crap that you do is because this is a PS2 board.  If NYPPZ ever said "I just had a conversation with a guy from Square and he said..." he would be banned, laughed at and ridiculed for months.  No one bats an eye when one of their PS2 darlings posts garbage like that.  

Because this isn\'t Console Debating--people who gush the PS2 don\'t get flamed, people who post stupidly about the amazing PS2 get support, people who flagrantly bash the xbox are welcomed and encouraged.  People who like the xbox have to check and double check every fact, have to qualify every statement with how much they love their PS2s and have to put up with so much crap it\'s no wonder there are so few here.

This forum is really really getting pathetic.  It once was the best on the net, now it\'s just like every other forum.  You know I went to TBX and it\'s exactly like this one.  People who post lovingly about the xbox are encouraged, people who try to appreciate the PS2 get attacked, their posts become filled with xbox zealots posting screenshots and pointing our jaggies.  

So you tell me how this forum is any different from TBX?  The same small minds occupy this forum, the only difference is that their small minds occupy the other side of the fence.

There is so much hypocracy around here: PS2 zealots pointing out jaggies, the lack of quality games for the xbox, ports.  Newsflash assholes: that happened to the PS2 also, only it was worse.  

The jaggies are worse, the graphics are worse, framerates are worse, the sound is worse, you get two controller ports, no HD, no real 5.1 or any chance of HDTV support in games, a piss poor DVD player, no modem, no solid online plans--all for EXACTLY the same price as an xbox (except for Euro of course).

Yet, of course, it\'s an inferior product.  Even IF the graphics were "as good" and the sound was "as good", all the extras you get with the xbox still make it a better purchase.

Yet, of course, it\'s an inferior product.

Sure it\'s getting ports now--it\'s new and companies are porting their successful games to xbox to make some quick cash.  Ports are going to even out and the PS2 will get its share of xbox ports.  PS2 got it\'s share when it launched and DC advocates were quick to point it out--anyone remember: "the port/sequel/rehash station".  That was the state of the PS2 up to only a couple months ago.

I find it odd that in a post dedicated to pointing out how bad this forum has become, turned out to be one of the worse examples of it.  

How short your memories are and how pathetic you have become.
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« Reply #123 on: March 13, 2002, 01:34:14 PM »
I\'m jumping aboard the Bobs_Hardware bandwagon, yeah, now there\'s three supporters!
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« Reply #124 on: March 13, 2002, 01:38:47 PM »
Watchdog: Please use the QUOTE feature.. [quote.][/quote.] (without the period).. Or use the button that says "Quote" in the vB code field..

It makes it much easier to read.
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« Reply #125 on: March 13, 2002, 01:54:48 PM »
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware

XBox\'s best games graphically are better than PS2\'s best games graphically, PS2\'s best games graphically are better than most of XBox\'s games graphically, Dreamcasts best games graphically are better than PS2\'s less than impressive games gpaphically..



It\'s unfair:)...XBox has 4 months of life and developers stopped to support the DC!

You exposed true raw "facts"...but in unfair conditions:)
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« Reply #126 on: March 13, 2002, 02:10:34 PM »
life isn\'t fair, deal with it.  If Microsoft wanted to match PS2\'s sales they should have launched it in Oct. 2000.
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« Reply #127 on: March 13, 2002, 02:27:49 PM »
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Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
life isn\'t fair, deal with it.  If Microsoft wanted to match PS2\'s sales they should have launched it in Oct. 2000.


Who knows...
...excuse me if I was a little brutal with you days ago...
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« Reply #128 on: March 13, 2002, 03:05:45 PM »
Seems like only a few months ago a topic was started very much like this one only instead it was begun by a PS2 fan lamenting on how much of an xbox-fanboy-PS2-bashing haven this forum had become.

Watchdog, lighten up. In the end what goes on here is of no consequence as to whether any console will succeed or fail. These forums are merely a barometer of what\'s happening week to week, not an influence and I\'m sure once this next storm in Europe passes it\'ll be back to business as usual in another week or two.

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« Reply #129 on: March 13, 2002, 03:15:56 PM »
Of course they have no iimpact.  I don\'t come here to make a difference in the console wars, I come because it once was enjoyable.  Now every thread turns into one much like this one.

If there isn\'t a point of attack at the xbox in a thread, some clown like Chrono introduces one and another thread is reduced to a xbox bash session.

Sure it won\'t get changed because this is a PS2 board and like I said NO attempt is made to curb it.  Someone as equally inane as NYPPZ can get by so long as his/her console of choice is the PS2.
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« Reply #130 on: March 14, 2002, 03:51:47 AM »
Okay Watchdog,

I think your problem is that this forum (console-debating) was never intended to be a X-box forum or unbiased forum. I mean, if this is really console-debating, what are all this posts about Xbox games doing here? They don\'t have anything to do with console debating, so why get upset if certain members take this oppertunity to bash, trash or diss?

And do you know what, there\'s heaps of debating going on here (just ignore the brainless bashing), I just wonder why you don\'t post? With all respect (and I\'m not trying to offend you or anyone in here), but it seems more that you\'re upset about how Xbox is selling miserably in Japan (eventhough it should be selling heaps more) or that it isn\'t quite living up to the hype to everyone else.

I won\'t comment on the other stuff you posted (the one following my long reply) since you ignored most of my stuff anyway and your post being more directed to everyone rather than just to me.

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« Reply #131 on: March 14, 2002, 03:59:38 AM »
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Okay Watchdog,

I think your problem is that this forum (console-debating) was never intended to be a X-box forum or unbiased forum. I mean, if this is really console-debating, what are all this posts about Xbox games doing here? They don\'t have anything to do with console debating, so why get upset if certain members take this oppertunity to bash, trash or diss?

And do you know what, there\'s heaps of debating going on here (just ignore the brainless bashing), I just wonder why you don\'t post? With all respect (and I\'m not trying to offend you or anyone in here), but it seems more that you\'re upset about how Xbox is selling miserably in Japan (eventhough it should be selling heaps more) or that it isn\'t quite living up to the hype to everyone else.

I won\'t comment on the other stuff you posted (the one following my long reply) since you ignored most of my stuff anyway and your post being more directed to everyone rather than just to me.


I did sujest a X box mini forum within the site but it was deamed that console Debating was being used for X box news anyway.

i think people have to remeber that this IS a PS2 site after all and if they want X box exclusive talk then they there are plenty of site out there to be a member of

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i just with that members like Bizoee would realise this ! :rolleyes:

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« Reply #132 on: March 14, 2002, 04:18:49 AM »
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Originally posted by ooseven


I did sujest a X box mini forum within the site but it was deamed that console Debating was being used for X box news anyway.

i think people have to remeber that this IS a PS2 site after all and if they want X box exclusive talk then they there are plenty of site out there to be a member of

oh and



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i just with that members like Bizoee would realise this ! :rolleyes:

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Call me Bizzio...you don\'t catch the point and you post always in the same way...
people could have some difficulties to understand when you are sarcastic...
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« Reply #133 on: March 14, 2002, 04:21:04 AM »
read later...

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ok mate we are cool.

you just have to get used to my twisted sence of Humor.


I\'ll try :)
He has the power of both worlds
Girl: What power… beyond my expectations?
AND IT\'S PERSONAL
Demon: No… the legendary Sparda!?
Dante: You\'re right, but I\'m his son Dante!

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« Reply #134 on: March 14, 2002, 10:13:58 AM »
Watchdog...

I agree with you...

Certain members, who shall remain nameless, often trash TXB when they are guilty of the exact same thing.
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