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Offline fastson
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« on: May 14, 2002, 05:59:08 AM »
http://www.gamersdepot.com/hardware/video_cards/matrox/parhelia_release/001.htm



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Matrox > nVidia

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Before I proceed, here\'s a quick gander at the ultra-impressive specs:

• General features and characteristics
• World\'s first 512-bit GPU
• 80 million transistors in 0.15 process
• 256-bit DDR memory interface
• Up to 20 GB/s memory bandwidth
• Up to 256MB DDR unified frame buffer
• 10-bit Gigacolor Technology
• 10-bit per channel RGB rendering and output
• Over one billion simultaneously displayed colors
• 10-bit precision for 2D, 3D, DVD and video
• 10-bit frame buffer mode for ARGB (2:10:10:10)
• 10-bit RAMDACs with full gamma correction
• AGP host interface designed for up to AGP 8X bandwidths
• AGP Fast Writes support
• 8-way parallel DMA streaming engine
• OpenGL 1.3 and DirectX® 8.1 compliant 3D engine
• DualHead®-HF Display Technology
• Dual integrated 400MHz 10-bit RAMDACs
• Dual independent RGB outputs
• Up to 2048 x 1536 @ 32bpp on each RGB output
• Support for two digital TMDS transmitters
• Dual independent DVI outputs
• Up to 1920 x 1200 on each output **
• Single dual-link DVI output
• Up to 2560 x 2048
• Integrated 10-bit high-fidelity TV/video encoder
• NTSC/PAL output
• Direct encoding of native interlaced YUV
• Perfect full-screen DVD playback via DVDMax
• TripleHead Desktop
• Support for 3rd RGB output
• Three display desktop at up to 3840 x 1024 @ 32bpp
• 10-bit gamma correction
• Per-layer gamma and color correction at full speed
• Dual independent, gamma correctable hardware overlays
• Support for true multi-display under Microsoft® Windows® 2000 and Windows XP
• Hardware accelerated multi-screen OpenGL support


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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2002, 06:47:30 AM »
Obviously technology goes on...and I can\'t imagine what both ATI and NVIDIA will release later...

however it\'s very interesting,thanks for the info...
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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2002, 07:01:46 AM »
nvidia hasnt released thier nv20 information yet

matrox\'s top of the line card will cost 600$+ anyways :rolleyes:

ummm, yeah

thats like saying the PS3 will 0wnx0r the xbox!!!!!!!!!!

matrox who?  oh yeah, get back in the closet where they belong
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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2002, 07:07:28 AM »
You mean NV30 ?
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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2002, 07:09:35 AM »
indeed i did, thanks

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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2002, 07:21:52 AM »
This card is $400.. And it still ownz GF4.. (3 screen Quake 3)

I wish I could buy it :(

But sure.. nVidia will eventually release a even more powerful card.. Eventually ;)
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2002, 07:25:06 AM »
We still have yet to see a review of the card... real world performance and spec sheets can be two very different things sometimes...
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2002, 07:31:23 AM »
thier high end card will cost  $600+ and they dont have the capital funding to come anywhere near nvidia

so 50% of those stats are gimmicks anyways

512 bit GPU, overkill anyone? whats it gonna run on, a cray?

3 screen quake 3?  BWUHAHAHAHAHA!  what a joke
sure, ill dump a grand on 3 monitors, sign me up!

all companies overstate thier specs

i remember nvidia saying thier gf4 would feature 8x AA

matrox = bitboys
they will fight for nvidia\'s table scraps with ATI

today (and tomorrow etc..), my 330$ gf4 ti4600 owns any matrox "vaporware"

remember when 3do came out with thier $800 super advanced console, yeah......
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2002, 07:34:22 AM »
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Originally posted by fastson
This card is $400.. And it still ownz GF4.. (3 screen Quake 3)

I wish I could buy it :(

But sure.. nVidia will eventually release a even more powerful card.. Eventually ;)


""So do we expect this card to be the “GeForce 4 Killer”? Yes and no. I’ll explain. You may have read the many rumors floating around about this card on the web over the last couple of weeks, and there has been great speculation as to what exactly it was capable of. Given our time with the card a few weeks ago, and the early reports we’re getting from Matrox we don’t expect this card to slaughter a GeForce 4 Ti4600 right off the bat. We do, however, expect it to pave the way to true, next-gaming at its finest and perform better than any current card when pushed into advanced forms of AntiAliasing and rendering at ultra-high resolutions. The 20 Gigabytes per second memory bandwidth really comes into play once you start enabling advanced features that tax the card and can truly utilize this GPUs potential.""

http://www.gamersdepot.com/hardware/video_cards/matrox/parhelia_release/011.htm

maybe it\'s better you buy the next GF then;)
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2002, 07:49:29 AM »
To be really honest, I didn\'t see anything in that article that really makes me jump for excitment. There are still a lot of questions unaswered, such as fillrate and clock speed and some other things that I wonder about that would have heaps of relevance.

"10-bit Gigacolor Technology?" What is the use of being able to have 1 billion simultaneously displayed colors, if the human eye can only distinguish about 12 million colours? I don\'t see how going above 24-bit will make a difference, even for those professionals. :confused:

512 bit does sound impressive, but only tells someone how much information passes through at one clock cycle. If these 512-bits are really so advanced is yet to be seen when they are tested against other graphicscards.

Apart from some mistakes in the article, definately a good read and shows how fast that the PC industry is advancing under the same old and limiting bottlenecks. I find it laughable though, to how much these graphicscards will end up costing. For what anyway, because no one will see those graphics posted in the above screen for at least a year anyway. 16xFAA, 1 billion colors and 4 vertex shaders won\'t make current games look much better. IMO, better to wait for a year and get the card at a discount when the first games ship that take maximum advantage of the GPU\'s performance.

Thanks for the info btw. It\'s cool to be updated. ;)

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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2002, 09:26:31 AM »
I\'ve owned 2 Matrox Cards (a Marvel G400-TV and currently have a Millenium 2 in an older compooter) and man are they awesome.  Matrox really puts quality into their products but they usually aren\'t really marketed towards gamers.  I\'ve never seen 2D quality that was any better, the text and graphics are super crisp.  But for gaming I much preferred my Elsa Gladiac and Radeon 7500.

If I was a professional or even amateur Adobe whore I\'d pick up this card (called the Perhelia?) but $400-$600 is not chump change.

nVidia will still be the king for the PC gamer imo.

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« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2002, 09:33:25 AM »
I\'ve been looking forward to this since I heard the first Parhelia rumours, a competitive Matrox card would be awesom.

I\'ll most likely get this card, I miss my old Matrox days, and if nVidia still remains the fastest 3d performer out there...so what, I\'m willing to accept that for the MUCH better 2d quality Matrox provides.
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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2002, 09:36:19 AM »
matrox did have wonderfull 2d back then, no argument there

but nvidia has made leaps and bounds in the 2d department

its 3D speed and quality that pulls gamers in, and thats who buys these cards
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« Last Edit: May 14, 2002, 10:40:12 AM by THX »

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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2002, 09:55:56 AM »
the one awesome aspect of this card that just got me excited is the following:

the Matrox Perhelia 512 apparently will support the new Amiga OS. Now that\'s cool. :)

As a matter of fact, Amiga will rise from the death:
http://www.amiga.com/corporate/032502-mcewen.shtml

Should be cool, especially to those Amiga fans outthere. :)

 

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