Metal Gear Solid 2 Substance preview with Hideo Kojima:

Its my fault for not saying it but he was talking about MGS 2 x or whatever.  Yes he was developing MGS2X for the x box and when he  said that.

Originally posted by Clowd
Its my fault for not saying it but he was talking about MGS 2 x or whatever.  Yes he was developing MGS2X for the x box and when he  said that.

Have you got a link to this? did he say this at E3? And also from looking at the pictures of the new game, it looks like he has just ported it over, he hasn\'t made any use of the xbox\'s graphics.
But hey maybe HALO looked so nice because the xbox didn\'t have to worry about the shadows LOL

Oh the joys of a convenient memory, eh Clowd?

Here\'s the interview where Hideo made those comments, and it dates WAY back to April 2001!!!;

http://www.ps2domain.net/news/401/40701.shtml

Hmmm....

Why would his opinion change now?

Er-hem, he wasn\'t working on the XBox then, he was 100% committed to finishing MGS2 on the PS2, which he said in another interview when asked about MGSX. This led to some gamers claiming MGSX was just a rumour which will never happen.

Today, he IS working on the XBox. Big difference!

EDIT: One final point, his comments were made when developers were still using phase2 XBox devkits, which had 50% the graphical power of the final hardware and emulation for many features of the media processor (hence the poor framerate of some XBox games, such as Halo, at E3 2001!). Therefore at the time, he would not be able to compare the real performance of the XBox against the PS2, even if he wanted to!

Ok, enough from me, it\'s time to go home!

I\'m getting the xbox version.:thepimp:

Ethan,

But hey maybe HALO looked so nice because the xbox didn\'t have to worry about the shadows LOL

LMAO. Maybe HALO looked so nice because it only ran at 30 fps?

So the interview  proves Hideo had no clue as to the capabilities of xbox? Pa-leese!

But I understand Clowd\'s confusion. If you listened to any xbox fanboy back then it was evident MGSX was under development at the time and the graphically enhanced xbox version with added content would follow right on the heels of the inferior :rolleyes:  PS2 title.

if thier straight ports, screw the xbox version

i\'d rather have better control

"So the interview proves Hideo had no clue as to the capabilities of xbox? Pa-leese!"

Not that he was clueless, but certainly that his opinion was based on his own assumptions only (which I respect), rather than fact (see my edit above).

"But I understand Clowd\'s confusion. If you listened to any xbox fanboy back then it was evident MGSX was under development at the time and the graphically enhanced xbox version with added content would follow right on the heels of the inferior  PS2 title."

Or if you listened to the more informed Xbox fan at the time ...
... he would say (as I did back then) that Hideo had already confirmed in interviews that he is working 100% on the PS2 version ONLY, since his priority was to finish MGS2 and make it the best game he could on the PS2. Hence, work on MGSX would have to wait until MGS2 was complete. And here we are today!


EDIT: Just found one of the threads I recalled from the time, and notice my 3 posts in there too (wow, my memory is better than I thought )

http://www.psx2central.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=8066

quote - "Assuming MGSX is MGS2, then except for FSAA and better lighting, I wouldn\'t expect it to look THAT much better than MGS2. This is Not because of power, but because it\'s a straight port of one of the most important titles for the PS2." :eek:

Why are people arguing over the statements of one man from awhile ago?  What\'s the point really?  On top of that, why are people arguing about a port?  Ports suck.  I\'d rather have  a completely redone MGS1 rather then this stuff.

Originally posted by Dr Yassam
"So the interview proves Hideo had no clue as to the capabilities of xbox? Pa-leese!"

Not that he was clueless, but certainly that his opinion was based on his own assumptions only (which I respect), rather than fact (see my edit above).

I really think Hideo was basing his assumptions on a lot more fact than you give him credit for (i.e. being an industry insider plus an educated evaluation of performance based on specs) and I also feel his comments were influenced by how the projected resulting difference in console power might be perceived in the eyes of gamers. Woah! Now it\'s me making assumptions. Anyway, a year has passed and Hideo\'s assumption has so far have played out very accurately. After all, the xbox graphical difference hasn\'t been near enough in the eyes of the public to sway sales in its favor.

And yeah, I saw your edit above. Now we can all see the mighty xbox running at 100% power, HALO running at 30 fps instead of 10 to 20 as it was at last years E3 and know why it\'s being called PC Lite. I\'m sure Hideo Kojima San was blown away :rolleyes:

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Didn\'t Konami try this with SH2? Yep, they did.  On the same note, this is the elusive MGSX that has been talked about for over a year now? Gee ...:rolleyes:

Originally posted by seven
Ethan,



LMAO. Maybe HALO looked so nice because it only ran at 30 fps?

LMAO. and what would it run at on other consoles? LOL
Also this was a launch game, and for a launch game i thought it was pretty amazing, i mean didn\'t it get Game of the year??
You do now that i said about the shadows for a laugh don\'t you, because this is what Clown said Hideo said about the Xbox.
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Actually in a previous Kojima interview he said the x box wasnt all it was cracked up to be.

He said the power was about the same, and the only way the x box version could look better is because x box hardware can produce shadows without using any processor strength
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Originally posted by Dr Yassam
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Oh the joys of a convenient memory, eh Clowd?  

Here\'s the interview where Hideo made those comments, and it dates WAY back to April 2001!!!;
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Thanks there Dr Yassam, i knew this was the interview he was talking about, but i didn\'t have the time to go and find it agian.

[Bobs_Hardware]

thats what you get for reading Clowd\'s reply..