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« Reply #45 on: May 22, 2002, 08:02:46 AM »
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It cant be at 80%?  x box technology has been out longer then the console.  x box technology is not as advanced as PS2\'s.

the PS2 is like the PS1.  The games will just get better and better.  Not that the PS2 is hard to develop for its just different.  Developers love x box for its technology since its so unoriginal, and they already have experience with it.


yep it is unoriginal, but why make something that no one will get the full use out of it, where as the xbox and cube you can get that power from the word go?
But as you said there is always ways to get more out of a console, so that must mean that Xbox games will always look nicer and nicer!!
Also to me the PS1 got to a certain point and then the games all looked the same, take GT1 and GT2 the graphics hardly changed between those two games, and they were what one year apart maybe more.
Also how long will it take to get the power out of the PS2? it has been out in Japan for what 3 years another two and the PS3 will probably be here!!
Let hope the new info they gave out about one of the vector units helps to get some of the power.
I am not against the PS2 i have some really good games on my PS2-DMC - MGS2 - Z.O.E - FFX to name a few, i just don\'t understand why people always have to make excusses, for something.
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« Reply #46 on: May 22, 2002, 08:08:56 AM »
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the xbox and cube you can get that power from the word go?
But as you said there is always ways to get more out of a console, so that must mean that Xbox games will always look nicer and nicer!!
 


Because they are so simple to develop for also means that they max out quickly

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« Reply #47 on: May 22, 2002, 08:15:50 AM »
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Yep i thought about what you are saying, and yes it is bad, that the developers still haven\'t found away to get good textures out of the PS2 while the Xbox doesn\'t seem to have any sort of problems in the graphics department, and i couldn\'t give a crap if people say it is just a PC, I LOVE NICE GRAPHICS and i don\'t care what they come out of as long as they are good.


Ethan, huh, hope you didn\'t mean that, because I could name you flaws from almost all[(i] Xbox games out at the moment in the graphics devision. Thinking of what Microsoft promised, those games I\'ve seen so far are quite disappointing (although I\'m convinced you\'ll argue that).

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you are making a mistake there, shadows ARE what make games look realistic. Go look at some Doom III screenshots


Metal_Gear_Ray, no I didn\'t. I never said shadows don\'t make a game look realistic - I just said that MGS2 might not have had shadows at all time, but all the other effects are some of the best in current games. Disagree?

BTW; I do agree shadows make a game look more realistic, but I doubt there is any game at the moment that has shadows on every object and even more doubt that ProjectEgo has them based on the current screens.

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I really don\'t believe what you said there, there is always way to get more out of a console(which you said), which means that it can\'t be at 80% and the only reason the PS2 is at 50% is because developers haven\'t as of yet been about find ways around the PS2 to open up that untaped power, which isn\'t really much use.


Ethan, I believe Clowd tried to point out that each system has their strengths and in the case of Xbox, it\'s clearly its more straight forward architecture design which lets developers do lots of great things with little effort. Since it\'s basically a PC architecture, Xbox has the advantage to be tapped fairly easy. It\'s no dumb estimate to say that Xbox is being pushed way more than PS2 at the moment.

And 80% (efficiancy) might be more accurate than you think. But how good you make a game look using [insert number]% of power is still up to talent of the developers.

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BTW, That pic that fastson posted has a lot less geometry going on than some of those Project Ego shots. It (It? Which game?) may look like there are a lot of polygonal things going on; but it is really some extensive bump-mapping. Similar to what was seen in the Deathstar trenches on Rogue Leader. If not, that is very impressive.


Gohan, what do you mean? That Rachet and Clank does not have more geometry or that it does? It seems you are first refering to Rachet and Clank not having a lot of geometry, but than you start talking about how little geometry the Project Ego screens seem to use and that it\'s all done via extensive bump-mapping.

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« Reply #48 on: May 22, 2002, 08:22:31 AM »
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yep it is unoriginal, but why make something that no one will get the full use out of it, where as the xbox and cube you can get that power from the word go?


Simple: freedom of development.[/u] With an architecture like that, developers can choose more ways than on any other system. You\'ll have to do everything by yourself, but with the effort, you can build your engines to take full advantage of your game and the system. Thanks to that, PS2 is more up to par with Xbox than Xbox being 3x more powerful like everyone seem to think. ;)

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i just don\'t understand why people always have to make excusses, for something.


We\'re not making excuses. Simply proving what ignorant people have been saying and believing to be untrue.

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« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2002, 11:51:35 AM »
Does is really matter when 100% for XBox will always look better than 100% on PS2? Your percentages are BS, btw. You pulled them out of thin air and you may as well put them back.

Gohan said it best: (to paraphrase) just because a game is non-linear, it has to be bad? You can play PE along the storyline, which will make the game as linear as you can get. Or you can venture out and kill things, collect things, do side quests, etc. It may not be as open as the developers who have hyped it may want you to think it is, but it is more open than any game ever conceived.

BTW, no one with common sense believes that XBox is 3X more powerful than PS2. Don\'t be a jackass.


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« Reply #50 on: May 22, 2002, 12:01:32 PM »
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Does is really matter when 100% for XBox will always look better than 100% on PS2? Your percentages are BS, btw. You pulled them out of thin air and you may as well put them back.

BTW, no one with common sense believes that XBox is 3X more powerful than PS2. Don\'t be a jackass.


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Read seven\'s post again and rethink what you said.

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« Reply #51 on: May 22, 2002, 12:29:27 PM »
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x box has almost maxed already while the PS2 has been only slightly tapped in.  Consoles are different beasts, they arent like PCs (or that pc x box) you can dig here and there and find new ways to use its power and find more polygons here and there.

While I have heard from several souces x box is around 80% maxed while no game has pushed PS2 past 50%


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EDIT: Sorry but just couldn\'t help myself! I\'m afraid that more PS2 propaganda/BS has been spewd from this one page than would usually amass in several threads. No offenses but, if you knew what PS2 fanboy BS looks like, this sums it all up.
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« Reply #52 on: May 22, 2002, 12:43:30 PM »
nonamer, have I taken the time to personally welcome you to the board? We were in shortage of GOOD members coming i over the past year or so. We need more people with common sense.

Welcome to the board.


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« Reply #53 on: May 22, 2002, 12:45:28 PM »
I\'m sorry to say, but your posts in general prove that you\'re no better than the rest of those "fanboys" on this page. Reminds me very much of the TeamXbox forums.. you\'ll have one guy claiming something and the next with some lame remark about it being fanboy bull****. Got to laugh about that... :rolleyes:

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« Reply #54 on: May 22, 2002, 01:04:56 PM »
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nonamer, have I taken the time to personally welcome you to the board? We were in shortage of GOOD members coming i over the past year or so. We need more people with common sense.

Welcome to the board.


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Uh, Thanks. I guess it\'s nice to be called a "GOOD" member.;)

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I\'m sorry to say, but your posts in general prove that you\'re no better than the rest of those "fanboys" on this page. Reminds me very much of the TeamXbox forums.. you\'ll have one guy claiming something and the next with some lame remark about it being fanboy bull****. Got to laugh about that...:rolleyes:


I apologize if that offends you somehow, but you\'ve got to admit, what Clowd said are classic PS2 statements. If you used to frequent IGN forums (I did), you\'ll see this all the time, and for me, I\'ve been seeing it for years. By now, it\'s just plain laugh-out-loud funny to me.

PS: Oh yeah, some of your statements are starting to look a bit too much like "classic PS2 statements" too. Be careful how you say things. It just might strike me as "funny".;)
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« Reply #55 on: May 22, 2002, 01:07:41 PM »
Project Ego looks fantastic!!!  The best graphics I\'ve ever seen !  Can\'t wait for first impression at E3 !
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« Reply #56 on: May 22, 2002, 01:13:55 PM »
Now everyone knows my fealings on Project Ego.... so i won\'t say anything and get myself into TROUBLE...or anything that will start fights....

i mean before i know it i am using such spite and what not that i end up using the words "over inflated" and "project Ego" together about my complete and total lack of faith in lionhead.

well i am not falling for it this time

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oh GODD DAMN IT !
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« Reply #57 on: May 22, 2002, 01:17:26 PM »
Lionhead studios has renewed my faith in them after the craptacular Black and White failed to live up to expectations, im sure as hell PE will.:D
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« Reply #58 on: May 22, 2002, 01:35:13 PM »
The information I posted, like it or not, is true.  The percentages may be a little off, but nethertheless they are true.

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« Reply #59 on: May 22, 2002, 01:49:51 PM »
//me plucks up the courage.. and runs into console debating and shouts.





 PROJECT OVER INFLATED EGO !



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