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« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2002, 11:17:40 PM »
Massive revelation! Link\'s new sidekick and love interest!

Rriiight, sorry about that...  :p

I love the new look, as many people here, I hated it before I saw it moving some 4 months ago, now I can\'t wait for the damn game, yum. And after that new trailer... awww hell!!!!! Whoever says that that looks like crap either nuts or blind (and deaf)... or just doesn\'t like it, guess that\'s possible too :D The music sounded nice, time for a fully orchestral soundtrack? Kondo\'s music (I\'m just guessing here, but since he\'s done the music for all the other Zelda games too...) works have always sounded much better when backed up by a symphony orchestra...
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« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2002, 06:49:34 AM »
Maybe its just that cell shading looks so... childish

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« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2002, 07:39:48 AM »
Technically it is really impressive, especially the lighting in some pics. The bad thing is that I absolutely hate the look of this game, those bright kiddie colors make me want to puke

I was hoping Nintendo canned this game and gave us the old one from spaceworld..
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« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2002, 11:11:49 AM »
Took some time away, Ryu. ;)

Does anyone else think Zelda looks like that toy maker/doctor in that claymation Christmas show (the one with the Rudolf the red-nosed reindeer)?

The pastel colors make it look like Zelda\'s in Barbie\'s backyard playset.
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« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2002, 12:20:04 AM »
HIS EYES! THEY MADE THEM SMALLER! NOW HE LOOKS A LITTLE LESS LIKE THE ELF FROM THAT CHRISTMAS MOVIE!
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« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2002, 01:32:08 AM »
I don\'t mind that this game is cell shaded (as I have said time and time again, cell shading is a great tool if used right on the right game). As for the animation, amazing. Just that, the art design...IMO, sucks. Now, it could still be the greatest game gameplay wise, but I just can\'t get pass the fetus look of this Zelda.
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« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2002, 06:38:20 AM »
Here we go again....;)

I remember last year\'s E3 when Nintendo unveiled this baby. I also remember the revolt on every board including non-Nintendo boards such as this one. It was a love or hate thing and two of the only people who loved it around here was Ryu and I. Infact, we both even made threads about why the "celda" look was good for the series and guess what? Here we go again...;)

Come on people, Zelda was never about a dark moody setting like the one shown to us at SpaceWorld 2K. I mean, sure that one looked great and all, but it just didn\'t fit the Zelda series. This though, this is not only gorgeous, not only is it a remarkable techincal achievement ..It is also best for the series most likely. It lets the series get back to its root and that is, at best a light-hearted yet deep adventure about an Elf who continues to rescue the same damn princess everytime. Now why do you need dark and mature graphics for such a light hearted story? You don\'t. Instead, you need graphics that are just as light-hearted and care free as the story is.  

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bright kiddie colors


Holy crap! We no longer just have "kiddie games" we now have "kiddie colors". Soon we will even have "kiddie sounds", "kiddie movement" and so on.
Thanks!
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I think it looks awful. I hate the look, just hate it. It might be fun, be there are lots of fun games, I don\'t want a game for the kid in me, I want a game for the 26 year old that I am.

I\'ve grown up, Nintendo hasn\'t. That\'s fine, my nephew will love it.



Okay, here we have a contradiction in itself. You admit that it might be fun, but at the same time you trash Nintendo for making the game. Isn\'t the game about being fun? Your nephew will love it, you admit that. How do you know you won\'t love it? Oh, I forgot, the graphics are not mature enough for you. So, you are willing to limit yourself from most likely a great game (what Zelda game hasn\'t been great?) just because of the graphics? Odd and I thought you was a "gamer".

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Im running a 56k right now so I\'ll probably download the movie later.

Smooth running? Doesnt look like it will take much to give graphics like that a high frame rate... .

No man, it doesn\'t take anything to give those graphics a high frame rate and the detail that is going into the game to make it look like an interactive cartoon yet play like an actual game (as in: Not like Dragon\'s Lair, which was an interactive cartoon . ) . Seriously, Ryu has already tackled your comment about this, but I had to have a go at it.

No offense, of course.

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« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2002, 09:18:44 AM »
Fair enough LIC, but I see no contradiction in my post.  Graphics are part of the game, part of the immersion and experience.  Graphics like these will take me right out of the game.  There\'s a reason why I don\'t watch cartoons or Disney movies, they have good solid stories, timeless characters, rich plots, but I can get all those things in other places.  

I can play Diablo or Dungeon Siege for instance.  FF isn\'t ultra realistic (even though I dislike the series), but the graphics are aimed at all audiences, not just kids.

You could have the greatest story ever writen, but if it\'s penned by a ten-year-old it won\'t be for me.  A peice of art can have all the details, merits, and attention the artistic landscape and cannon intact--all these things make art great--but if my nephew was guiding the brush, I wouldn\'t like it.

JSRF is cell shaded, but it has a decidedly different look.  I would have liked a more THPS look, but it was still a far cry from Zelda.

I can appreciate the technical acumen, but I don\'t have to like it.
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« Reply #38 on: May 23, 2002, 09:42:17 AM »
hey!  i LOVED the look of the new Zelda from the first pic i saw!  how dare you say you and Ryu were the only people who liked it.. hell, i probably liked it before you two.. i remember telling Ryu that i liked it well before he created his thread..

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and for god sakes people, Clowd is a frickin\' troll.. yet you all cant help replying to him..

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« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2002, 09:46:13 AM »
I think the game looks fine.

My concern, however, lies in the sound of the game.
Judging on the movie trailer I got, the sound of link\'s voice was annoying, very annoying.. and i\'m only listened to it for a whole minute.

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« Reply #40 on: May 23, 2002, 09:47:08 AM »
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Worst Nightmare = FF cell shading graphics


I\'m pretty sure that Square will be able to make a great playable FF in cell shaded. But I prefer them in 3D :D
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« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2002, 11:21:58 AM »
just downloaded the Trailer

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« Reply #42 on: May 23, 2002, 11:52:37 AM »
LIC, You forgot me. I was one of the early defenders of Link also.

All of the impressions that I am seeing on many of the game sights say the game in person is absolutely gorgeous. Example: Penny Arcade - These guys are getting a hard-on for this game.

BTW, In this game he sets out to save his sister. I don\'t think Zelda is involved at all.
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« Reply #43 on: May 23, 2002, 12:01:56 PM »
Nintendo continues to prove they are a kiddie system.

All this is starting to make me wonder whether Zelda is a series for kids or something for all ages (FF)

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« Reply #44 on: May 23, 2002, 12:11:58 PM »
Clowd - who cares if it looks kiddy when it\'s a fun game to play? I used to use that "kiddy arguement" aswell - until I played Mario Tennis not so long ago which really changed my mind towards Nintendo. It may not have as many of those mature theme games like Xbox and PS2, but for what it is (being a very fun and entertaining system), it certainly has a lot to offer and certainly does not deserve people like you bashing it as a "kiddy system".

You should stop the trolling/spamming btw. It\'s not very welcome here, but I\'m sure you\'ll find that out if you continue. ;)
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