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« Reply #45 on: May 23, 2002, 12:13:25 PM »
It really amazes me that so many people can judge a game so quickly by a few screenshots.  The way you can dismiss this as just another kiddie game amazes me.

This is Zelda we are talking about, one of the most fun and sucessful videogame series we\'ve ever seen.  Did you not enjoy the ones for NES, SNES, and gameboy?  Well, in those games, graphics weren\'t an issue.  I honestly think that was a better time in gaming, because graphical limitations caused people to focus more on gameplay.  A game can look amazing, but if it doesn\'t have good gameplay backing it up, it\'s worthless, and a waste.  However, a game with bad graphics and great gameplay can be, and probably would be a great game.

And that\'s assuming the game has bad graphics.  This one doesn\'t.  The animation runs so smoothly, and really looks stunning in action.  The thing doesn\'t even seem to be that the graphics are bad.  It\'s that they are too "kiddie" for you, and you have grown up.

Well, the fact is, that shouldn\'t mean a thing.  The gameplay will remain loyal to the original series, which should be what really matters.  The game should still not only be fun to play, but should be one of the most fun games to play that Gamecube is producing.  If you can\'t get over yourself and enjoy the game, then that\'s probably more of a problem with you than with the game.

And as Gohan said, people who have seen this thing in action are completely amazed by it.  Best game in show so far, that says something.  Listen to what some of them were saying:

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This game looks f*cking amazing. I’d say it was the best looking game I saw at the Show today. I would also say it’s probably the best looking game I’ve ever seen in my entire goddamned life. We all just stood there mesmerized by it, with our mouths wide open. Until you have seen this game running you cannot possibly comprehend how gorgeous it is. It’s like a big “f*ck you” to all the people who b*tched about the cartoon look.


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Zelda for GC. I didn\'t say anything when those screenshots came out because I wanted to wait and see. I have very little faith for just about everything, but when it comes to anything Link-related I don\'t bat an eye. All I have to say is Zelda is the only reason I bought a N64, and this Zelda is why I\'m going to buy a GC now. To everyone that said they thought it looked horrible? You\'re dead f*cking wrong. It\'s God Damn FANTASMICAL. Gabe overheard two fire-breathing sh*t-eaters make a snide comment about the graphics. I don\'t know how anyone could be that stupid and stubborn with something like that right in front of them. OH NO WAIT, yes I do, the kind of f*cking idiots that breath fire and eat sh*t. Good God, it\'s an amazing piece of work. Everyone shut up, wait and see. If you don\'t think it\'s groin-grabbingly good, you probably breath fire and eat sh*t. Even though that\'s my opinion PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SEND ME RETARDED HATE MAIL "CORRECTING" ME, THX.


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I think that the new Zelda is something that needs to be seen to be believed, and needs to be played to be understood. If you have done both and not come away impressed, I think that you need a new hobby. I\'m not kidding. When something this great comes along, and you\'re simply to jaded to appreciate it, there\'s other things you could be doing you might derive more pleasure from.


Listen to them.  Don\'t knock the game based on a few screen shots.  Try it.  Otherwise, it\'s just showing how close minded you are.

In summary, and how\'s this for irony, people who can\'t get over the "kiddie" look need to grow up
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« Reply #46 on: May 23, 2002, 12:23:20 PM »
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Nintendo continues to prove they are a kiddie system.

All this is starting to make me wonder whether Zelda is a series for kids or something for all ages (FF)



There goes your credibility. :rolleyes:  Gamecube is a kiddie console eh? Hmm, I beg to differ.   Err wait a min, Every nintendo console is a kiddie console *thinks back to Nes, SNES days, hmm, those aren\'t kiddie.  

The kiddie debate(there shouldn\'t be one anyways) is drawn out, by anyone that refuses to look past the N64 days, and the games were a bit childish then. But come on people, Gamecube is far from childish, I mean come on Resident Evil, Resident evil O, Eternal darkness, Need i go on.  Zelda is a series for all ages, if you\'ve actually played the games, they aren\'t "just for kids" they require thought, as to where you are to go, and so forth, there are many choices.  But, i mean come on, the Kiddie debate, is pointless.    

If you don\'t like Zelda or Nintendo, then you don\'t belong in this thread.  


Some people:rolleyes:
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« Reply #47 on: May 23, 2002, 12:25:29 PM »
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it certainly has a lot to offer and certainly does not deserve people like you bashing it as a "kiddy system".
 


I dont have a right to an opinion?

And Terry.  Your right I dont belong in this thread.  I have nothing good to say about Nintendo except for Mario.  IMO they are are still a kiddie system (resident evil.  one game.  and you mentioned some other \'mature\' game) but you dont mention the other 90% of the games (pikimin, luigi mansion, starfox)

Why would they go from the darker Zelda look at Spaceworld to this bright la la land kid stuff we see now?  

Two words

Kid console
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« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2002, 12:28:59 PM »
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I dont have a right to an opinion?




You are entitled to one yes, but, umm, bringing up the kiddie debate thing pretty much is useless.
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« Reply #49 on: May 23, 2002, 12:31:07 PM »
You can voice your opinion.  If you do, however, you have to be ready for people to respond to it.  Especially if you opinion is so groundless :p
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« Reply #50 on: May 24, 2002, 12:16:52 AM »
Okay, so I forgot about Gohan and Bob also being early defenders of the game. I stand corrected. :p

Oh and Clowd, can you read? The original SpaceWorld demo was just that, a tech demo! Not to mention the change was made because of the fantasy enviroment that Zelda represents. A light-hearted adventure, jesus. Read! It had nothing to do with a "kid console".

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« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2002, 08:17:50 AM »
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Okay, so I forgot about Gohan and Bob also being early defenders of the game. I stand corrected. :p

Oh and Clowd, can you read? The original SpaceWorld demo was just that, a tech demo! Not to mention the change was made because of the fantasy enviroment that Zelda represents. A light-hearted adventure, jesus. Read! It had nothing to do with a "kid console".



*cough*  *Raises hand as a defender* If you read my damn post.;)  I wasn\'t an early defender, but, blah, now i am.
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« Reply #52 on: May 24, 2002, 08:19:52 AM »
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*cough*  *Raises hand as a defender* If you read my damn post.;)  I wasn\'t an early defender, but, blah, now i am.


but if you read his post you would know he is talking about early defenders.. and specifically early defenders and nothing but early defenders... so put yuor god damn hand down..

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« Reply #53 on: May 24, 2002, 08:22:15 AM »
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but if you read his post you would know he is talking about early defenders.. and specifically early defenders and nothing but early defenders... so put yuor god damn hand down..






Okay,  

*puts hand down*   But anyways, since when are you unbias?

You\'ve changed alot lately. More open minded are we?   Eh cool....I guess all you mods in CD gotta keep an open mind too.:)  Don\'t take that wrong bob.
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« Reply #54 on: May 24, 2002, 08:24:09 AM »
Thanks Ryu for the pics and the movie!

This game is fantastic...and even if I was a bit disappointed at first for the new look...now I have to rethink...and I really like it! Can\'t wait!
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« Reply #55 on: May 24, 2002, 08:26:24 AM »
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Okay,  

*puts hand down*   But anyways, since when are you unbias?

You\'ve changed alot lately. More open minded are we?   Eh cool....I guess all you mods in CD gotta keep an open mind too.:)  Don\'t take that wrong bob.


did i ever say i was unbiased?  i have never claimed to be anything but a PS2 fanboy..

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« Reply #56 on: May 24, 2002, 08:33:32 AM »
EEEW EEW LOOKS GAY!!!111

Ehem... I\'m mildly interested - and in the middle of downloading some footage. I\'ll be back. :)
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« Reply #57 on: May 24, 2002, 10:04:11 AM »
Yea it looks pretty.  But so does half everything else.  The only game I looked at and was impressed with was Metroid.  But the screen is so busy it\'s distracting.

But with Zelda, the important thing is not the look, it\'s the gameplay.  And it\'s very obviously the engine from Ocarina of Time.

That means a couple things, it\'ll be like that game only different to look at.  And the \'Space World demo\' was just that - a demo.  That fight scene would not be possible with the engine they\'ve been using.

But the game is challenging at times.  I tried killing the dragon boss and was only able to stun him a few times.  I won\'t give it away, but be assured that until you find the trick to them, the bosses are going to be tough.

The dungeon level we saw was pretty standard fare.  Solve torch puzzle, open door.  It got a little creative with picking up fallen enemies\' weapons.  If one is more powerful than your own, it could be useful to break through barriers that were impenetrable before.

I\'m sure it\'s in the movies you linked to, too, but the boat level was in there too.  It was a coin grabbing minigame, more or less.  But everything except the wake coming off the boat was beautiful.  The nicest looking part was when Link was outside in the sunlight.  In a bright environment, everything looks great.

My second favorite was the dragon boss, but he was much more fun to look at than to get killed by. ;]

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« Reply #58 on: May 24, 2002, 10:13:17 AM »
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Nintendo continues to prove they are a kiddie system.


You\'re obviously uninformed.

At Nintendo\'s press conference before the show took at least ten minutes saying and showing how they were going for older gamers (and their stereotypical tastes).  Not "we\'re for everyone" anymore, but "we\'re still doing that, and we\'re also going for older gamers."

Then they proceeded to show footage of Metroid, Eternal Darkness, and Resident Evil 0 (What did happen to the Bravo team?).

And that\'s only the AAA tip of the iceberg.

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« Reply #59 on: May 24, 2002, 10:42:57 PM »
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oh wow.. i didnt even think about that.. i thought it was set a matter of weeks before the original...

 

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