Will the HALO PC version even make 2003?!?

Originally posted by seven


Yup - of course Sony is the one to be blamed. Nintendo was oh so good for choosing catridges and telling devs what to do and what not. But we won\'t mention that... :rolleyes: I really can\'t see any relevance between Bungee/Microsoft and Sony/Square. Nintendo shot themselves with the N64 and it had nothing to do with Sony. And btw; no game was in development that got scratched.

I\'m not blaming anyone, like I said, who cares what goes on behind the scenes...

I guess those FFVII pics in my Nintendo power so many years ago were just a figment of my imagination...

Ginko, I doubt that those were true official N64 screens of the game. Square chose to put FFVII on PlayStation because the N64 just wasn\'t capable of handling that amount of data thanks to the infirious cartridge format. Remember when Square announced FFVII was going to appear on PSX? Everyone was shocked. As Square later said, it was due to the N64 not being technically capable for their game - but it could have also been because of Square not being happy with Nintendo for some reasons (freedom maybe?). Point still is though, it was Square\'s own will to shuffle the game onto another platform. Seing that FFVII was released on 3 cd\'s (well over 1 GB of data) - it\'s not hard to believe that the cartridge medium was not an option.

Originally posted by seven
Ginko, I doubt that those were true official N64 screens of the game. Square chose to put FFVII on PlayStation because the N64 just wasn\'t capable of handling that amount of data thanks to the infirious cartridge format. Remember when Square announced FFVII was going to appear on PSX? Everyone was shocked. As Square later said, it was due to the N64 not being technically capable for their game - but it could have also been because of Square not being happy with Nintendo for some reasons (freedom maybe?). Point still is though, it was Square\'s own will to shuffle the game onto another platform. Seing that FFVII was released on 3 cd\'s (well over 1 GB of date) - it\'s not hard to believe that the cartridge medium was not an option.

Real game or not, I saw pics and read first impressions of an early build of FFVII on N64...

Square did state that the cd as a medium would serve them better in making their ideal game...so they switched.  

You\'re getting away from the point, who cares what system the game is on.  You want it, then get it...no point in holding grudges against videogames...

Originally posted by seven
 Point still is though, it was Square\'s own will to shuffle the game onto another platform.

As I understand, it was Bungie\'s own will to seek out MS...

* Nu sighs.

Only reason 64 couldn\'t handle FFVII: Tons of useless FMVs that lots of diehard FF fans complained about.

And if it is true that Bungie approached Microsoft to be bought out, the situation becomes exactly the same as the FFVII on PSX argument.

I could give a rat\'s ass for Halo. And I mean that quite literally. Our cats leave the ass ends of rats on our front door mat every other week.

What does bother me is that some of you still think what happened to FFVII is a similar situation. Want to ignore why Square abandoned the N64 and opted to go with PSX? Fine, FFVII was smash hit on PSX and released for PC while it was still fresh. Case closed

Originally posted by Nu
* Nu sighs.
And if it is true that Bungie approached Microsoft to be bought out, the situation becomes exactly the same as the FFVII on PSX argument.

Okay fair enough.. but

...I highly doubt that Bungie approached Microsoft. After all, they had nothing to loose and a PS2 version in the works that looked great. I think it\'s more likely that Microsoft payed them a lot of money. Why would Bungie sell themselves to a company knowing that their important port on a highly succesful console would be canned anyway if they\'d do so? Makes no sense.

Originally posted by Heretic
I could give a rat\'s ass for Halo. And I mean that quite literally. Our cats leave the ass ends of rats on our front door mat every other week.

/me wonders why you added this as it doesn\'t matter.

What does bother me is that some of you still think what happened to FFVII is a similar situation. Want to ignore why Square abandoned the N64 and opted to go with PSX? Fine, FFVII was smash hit on PSX and released for PC while it was still fresh. Case closed

I think they can be thrown in similar situations...Square opted to go with PSX because it was more capable for making thier game come to life.  Bungie could have gone with Xbox based on capability to make a better game...

Originally posted by seven


Okay.. but

...I highly doubt that Bungie approached Microsoft. After all, they had nothing to loose and a PS2 version in the works that looked great. I think it\'s more likely that Microsoft payed them a lot of money. Why would Bungie sell themselves to a company knowing that their important port on a highly succesful console would be canned anyway if they\'d do so? Makes no sense.

Guess we\'ll never know for sure...

Originally posted by Ginko
/me wonders why you added this as it doesn\'t matter.

me/being ot + funny. That\'s alright, I don\'t need you to laugh

Originally posted by Ginko

I think they can be thrown in similar situations...Square opted to go with PSX because it was more capable for making thier game come to life.  Bungie could have gone with Xbox based on capability to make a better game...

Oh, and going to PC would restrict bringing Halo more to life? Now who is being funny?

me/being ot + funny. That\'s alright, I don\'t need you to laugh

laugh at what?

Oh, and going to PC would restrict bringing Halo more to life? Now who is being funny?

A pc version was always in the works, I\'m talking about consoles...

Originally posted by Ginko


A pc version was always in the works, I\'m talking about consoles...

Key word- was. The PC version of Halo would be out already, if it were up to bungie. Don\'t you think?

I\'m talking about MS control over Bungie vs Sony control over Square and the net result to gamers.

I highly doubt that Bungie approached Microsoft. After all, they had nothing to loose and a PS2 version in the works that looked great.

I replied to this...

Key word- was. The PC version of Halo would be out already, if it were up to bungie. Don\'t you think?

I\'m talking about MS control over Bungie vs Sony control over Square and the net result to gamers.

Most likely, but then what would Xbox have to flaunt? MS got something good and no one seems to be able to get over it...

And I really have to question how much influence Sony really has over Square.  Being that none of their franchises have even been announced as a maybe for another console has me wondering...

Technically, a PC is a console so you need not wonder much about Square\'s wings being clipped. Rumor mills had Nintendo demanding exclusive content for GC in order for Square to publish on GBA. Since that\'s exactly how things turned out, the rumors seem very valid. What choice in video consoles other than PSX did Square have? The N64 bridge was burned. What else? The soon to be dead DC? With out a user base in Japan, an xbox release isn\'t justified.

Your right about MS though. They have to keep whatever they can get their hands on exclusive to xbox. It\'s obvious to me Sony doesn\'t feel the same kind of pressure (GT3 to PC).

Originally posted by Heretic
Technically, a PC is a console so you need not wonder much about Square\'s wings being clipped. Rumor mills had Nintendo demanding exclusive content for GC in order for Square to publish on GBA. Since that\'s exactly how things turned out, the rumors seem very valid. What choice in video consoles other than PSX did Square have? The N64 bridge was burned. What else? The soon to be dead DC? With out a user base in Japan, an xbox release isn\'t justified.

While I really don\'t want to bring it up again, it can be argued that PSX in Japan didn\'t take off until FFVII was announced and released...I think they can "make" a console do well, if a exclusive FF game was announced for Xbox, how do you think it would fare?

Your right about MS though. They have to keep whatever they can get their hands on exclusive to xbox.

Halo will go to PC, just at a later time like GT3 did...If I were just starting out in the console business I would be very hard pressed to let a hot property go somewhere else when it is still racking up sales for my console...

It\'s obvious to me Sony doesn\'t feel the same kind of pressure (GT3 to PC).

That\'s obvious to everybody...Sony has it made, they don\'t need to worry about much.  They have the user base and a very captive audience...that doesn\'t come right away though.