WOW!! FFXI Sales are the BOMB(ing)!!!!

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
I am strongly biased, but I have no reason to lie. It just feels good to be right.
 
seven, I could give a rat\'s ass about FFXI\'s sales numbers and I don\'t care about add-ons = failure (since I own about every game-type addon released). I just care about proving people wrong I didn\'t get this tag for nothing, you know. If something smells fishy, I will seek out to know the truth.


Eric Jacob

heheheheh, I can\'t help but laugh.

[Bobs_Hardware]

poor Square.. they try so hard.  Movies, online games.  And they arent doing too well (at this point in time)

And i doubt whether or not American gamers will eat up FFXI (i think those words were used by someone earlier).. it all depends on how well the HDD goes down.  I\'m sure the majority of Americans certainly wont get it, even for Final Fantasy.  500,000 total worldwide users??  It\'s a possibility.  

I\'m not psychic, so I can\'t predict what kind of success rate Sony\'s HDD & Modem addon will have on a global scale.. but I do know it will have a 100% success rate in my home. That\'s all I\'ve ever really been concerned about. Tho it is kinda disspointing to hear it\'s not picking up so fast in Japan, as I have a few friends from the JP servers of PSO I was hoping to hookup with in this game. All that will probably change by the time FFXI is released stateside tho. Knowing Square however, I\'ll bet there\'s a good chance that JP, US, and EU servers will be totally seperate and won\'t allow players from one territory to play on another\'s servers. PSO was built specifically to bring players from all territories together.. and it shows by the excellent work with QuickChat translations and Icon windows.

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Anyhow, I don\'t think the reason\'s PSOv.2\'s popularity dropped was because of the Pay-Per-Play. Certainly that was a part of it.. and it did cause some users to quit. The vast majority, however, didn\'t like the idea of paying 5 a month jus to get NOLed. If Sega had used the money they gain on a month to month basis to help build more secure servers, then it might have been another story.

IMO FFXI right now, isn\'t doing bad. Yes, in terms of other Final Fantasy (which you SHOULDN\'T compare due their differences) it is doing horrible. However, 76,000 for an online only game on a system that requires you to buy a add-on to play it in a country that isn\'t big with online games and critized FFXI for being too "American", 76,000 is good. Now, selling 8,000 afterwards...not good. But no one said this game in particular had a lot of staying power (though a few here had sales of what, 400,000? Given that Everquest has about 500,000 monthly subscribers, I did find it hard to believe [though it has been reported that FFXI did sell out. Now, it probably sold out with 76,000. Big difference in numbers, but doesn\'t take away the fact that the game, at that time, did sell out if that was the case, not saying this is fact so don\'t quote me on this one]). And as I said before, a game on a system that requires an add-on, in a country not so hot on online games, and a game that is critized for being too American...not bad first start. And no reason for concern for Square yet.

Now, if this continues in Japan, they start losing subscribers (which this game relies on to make a profit), and sales don\'t do well here in the States and Europe, THEN you can call this game a failure. However, as of right now, more of a wait and see.

mm, you forget that this add-on is on a userbase of 9 million...45 times as many units as XBox has in Japan. But of course, since it is on PS2, it sold well, regardless of actual figures.

If XBox Live comes out and only 40,000 people sign up the first week (after the first big game comes out) no *****ing from any of you double-standard regulars, capiche?

Especially isnce it is broadband only.

Chrono, take your own advice and don\'t call XBox a failure yet, then. after all, anything can happen, correct?


Eric Jacob

you know it\'s funny Watchdog.


You bash whenever you can on rare occaisions like this since your XBOX is taking most of the damage.  It seems like once every month theres an XBOX joke and the joke is XBOX sales.

[Bobs_Hardware]

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
If XBox Live comes out and only 40,000 people sign up the first week (after the first big game comes out) no *****ing from any of you double-standard regulars, capiche?

Especially isnce it is broadband only.

Comparing XBox Live to PlayOnline hardly seems fair.  Your comparing an entire console to a service that requires costly add-ons and has just one game.  This isnt the complete failure of Sony\'s venture into Online gaming.. just the possible failure of Final Fantasy Online.  

UNFAIR? Final Fantasy games always sell millions of copies. XBox is broadband only. so those nix out eachother.

Might I remind you that XBox has 1/10th PS2 hardware number, and I am being VERY generous for the XBox in that respect.

If a big game only warrants 40,000 subscribers to XBox Live first week, none of you will whine. NONE. Otherwise, I whip out this bookmarked page, plus the other bookmarked pages of your guys dirty little quotes I wait to spring on people when the time is right. muhuhahahahaahah  


Eric Jacob

[Bobs_Hardware]

ok, but then we shall wait for both XBox and PS2 to have their online plans up and running and have about 10+ good solid Online games..

then we shall compare  

*cant wait for TimeSplitters 2 and Twisted Metal: Online*  awwww bebbe

:fro: toot on

nor I for Sega\'s Sports or Unreal Championship!

either way, you get some great online titles!


Eric Jacob

Altered, sorry to burst your bubble but FFXI in Japan is BroadBand ONLY.  No 56K here.

http://niga.sytes.net/game/ps2lx_32.jpg

there\'s a picture to the internal HDD/modem kit.. As seen from the picture, there\'s only an Ethernet port available, unlike the probably U.S. version.  I bought the external version, and it too only has an Ethernet adapter.

The Japanese are throwing away 56k like a bad habit.  They\'re pushing broadband as much as possible, and even offer 100mbs optical fiber connections for as low as 50 bucks a month.

I believe ONE of the biggest problems with FFXI not selling all too well is that people are waiting until they get their HDD units.  I barely got mine like maybe 3 days ago, and I had ordered it a month ago.  And I was one of the first people on the waiting list.  I can\'t imagine how long the waiting list is, and how long the people near the bottom will have to wait for their HDD kit to arrive.  Second, BroadBand (DSL, cable, optical fiber connections) are still relatively new, and is not as widespread as it is in the states.

But the common feel here, having talked to people about it, having read news articles, and news reports about it, is not at all pessimistic or negative.  There\'s optimism about the game, and there\'s really not that sense of negativity associated with the game.  When the xbox was released, I heard a lot of negative comments and there was this really bad vibe about it going on, but I have yet to hear anything of that sort about FFXI yet.  Well I bet the media and Sony probably had a lot to do with that, but heck.. its japan.

Oh yeah, and latest Famitsu sales figures:

1. FFXI 63958
2. Winning Eleven 6 59472
3. Captain Tsubasa 27314
etc

and note, the figures for the week of 5/13~5/19 on which FFXI was released on 5/16.  So 64k in 4 days isnt all that bad...

EDIT: But then again, I just read over your post about 8k in the second week, and hmm... I dunno.. I\'m just tryin to be optimistic about it as much as I can..

Oh yeah..  One reason why FFXI is online only is part having to do with Sony\'s involvement with the government and their push to try to bring BroadBand into everyone\'s home.  By making a big game like this online, they figure a lot more people will start going BroadBand.  Internet connectivity is really horrible over here.

AlteredBeast,

If XBox Live comes out and only 40,000 people sign up the first week (after the first big game comes out) no *****ing from any of you double-standard regulars, capiche?

This comparison is hardly ammo against the "double-stardard regulars."  

I agree with Bob\'s Hardware completely.  That isn\'t even close to a fair comparison.  You are comparing one game that costs ($50 for game, $40 for modem, $100+(?) for HDD) around $200 (not including the $50 for broadband and $10 monthly fee), to Xbox Live -- Microsofts complete online plan that will have many games and won\'t cost $200 to get started.  You are really reaching to make that comparison.  Also, are you refering to Xbox Live in Japan, or in America?  Because if not in Japan, then this comparison of yours is even more unfair.  BTW, this isn\'t exactly the Japanese\'s idea of a FF game.  This is an Americanized version of the series.  Japanese may love Final Fantasy, but since when were MMORPGs popular over there?

One last comment, if you really think 40,000 users in Japan (or even close to that number) are going to sign up for Xbox Live in its first week with games like Unreal Championship or Sega Sports titles, you just aren\'t thinking realistically.

Ok lets recap

PSO did 230,000 for Versions one and 2

FFXI is only out a short while and has sold 83,665 (64k in JUST 4 days)

That means that FFXI just needs to make 146,335 between now and From how long it took PSO to get to that figure (8 or 9 months wasn\'t it ?).


how can anyone consider this to be a failure  for Sony and Square when the M$$$$$$ as only managed to brake 800 X box in a Week .

800 in a week, teehee  :P