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Offline Watchdog
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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2002, 08:52:06 AM »
Tenchu does look good, kind of like MGS with swords.  I\'m kind of hoping that NG borrows from Tenchu--I would be dissappointed with a straight action hack and slash from a franchise like NG.  That and I prefer the art direction in NG--I\'m not a big anime fan and Tenchu definitely has been influenced by it.
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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2002, 09:04:02 AM »
Have you ever played the original Tenchu?  Quite an amazing game.  The cutscenes are done in a very artistic way, it\'s quite pleasing imo.  I don\'t remember just how anime influenced they were, but I know they looked like they were hand drawn rather then some type of graphical suped up version of Tenchu.  Anyways, I hope they are all good for different reasons, that way I won\'t feel like I am constantly repeating the same games with different stories.
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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2002, 09:25:13 AM »
Yes I did, sadly the PS1 couldn\'t quite pull it off, but I did really like the game--it was my favourite game that year (I wouldn\'t give it back to the friend who  loaned it to me).  T2 was a little of a let down--more of the same I thought.

I don\'t want a carbon copy either, but I want more than a hack and slash beat \'em up from NG.
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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2002, 09:32:30 AM »
Looks nice..
Dont forget Tecmo are masters of faking pics though (see DoA2/DoA2HC, DoA3).. ;)

I got high hopes for Tenchu 3 btw..
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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2002, 09:37:21 AM »
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Looks nice..
Dont forget Tecmo are masters of faking pics though (see DoA2/DoA2HC, DoA3).. ;)



I don\'t follow...I have DoA 2 for DC, and DoA 3 for Xbox.  Any preview screen shots I\'ve ever seen haven\'t done the game justice...
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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2002, 04:16:56 PM »
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I don\'t follow...I have DoA 2 for DC, and DoA 3 for Xbox.  Any preview screen shots I\'ve ever seen haven\'t done the game justice...


Let me explain a little better..
Tecmo/Team Ninja or whatever released mocked up screens of DoA2/DoA2HC (PS2) and DoA3.

What they do is they render the screens at Xbox maximum resolution (1900x*something*) on the Devkit (the Xbox can not run a game in that res in a ingame environment) then they downsize the picture to regular res.. They get perfect AA silky smooth image..

Ive seen "real" framegrabs from Xbox framebuffer (ingame screens, what the game looks like on the Xbox in its memory.. no fakes) and there is a huge difference..

Maybe you\'ve seen the doctored DoA2HC screens (check IGN), silky smooth image.. No jaggies at all.
Ive played DoA2 on PS2 and its nowhere near the pics.

Lets compare..

DoA3 Tecmo screens:


DoA3 - real (Note: These are not framebuffers.. The framebuffers have much better colors and abit better quality.. Nothing like the doctored pics though):


DoA2:HC Tecmo screens:


DoA2:HC Real (Not framebuffer but still)


We\'ve had this debate here before.. I think its a pretty well known fact that they (like many others) fake their screens.
I hope it answers your questions :)
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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2002, 04:41:53 PM »
Ya\' know, if anyone is a protester of older classic games becoming 3D, it would be me. I\'ve protested every game including this one, but even I cannot deny the fact that this game is looking gorgeous. Sure, it looks a lot like DOA3 and I do mean a lot like DOA3, but it still is gorgeous.  That is what this debate is about, right? If so - then I don\'t think you can deny how the game looks.

A completely different debate would be on how it plays and from the video released at E3, I got a DMC vibe from it. Maybe it is just me, but that is the vibe I got. A ninja running around doing impressive moves , with DOA3 combo\'s and all in all a simple button masher that features a ninja.
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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2002, 06:52:12 PM »
fatson, I have the game (DOA3), I have an HDTV, and it looks a lot closer to the "doctored" pics you show there than the framebuffer one.  I don\'t know, but maybe tecmo doctored my version of the game to save face.
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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2002, 07:01:07 PM »
That is quite interesting Watchdog, because I happened to have played DoA3 on a HDTV setup aswell - and the image that was shown clearly indicates that the game doesn\'t even have proper AA.

But yeah, I\'m sure Tecmo gave you a special version of DoA3. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2002, 07:14:04 PM »
What!  Seven on the side of a PS2 fanboy!?!

Call the papers, this is breaking news.
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« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2002, 07:34:15 PM »
Hey fastson, you rock.  I finally learned why the games dont look as good in action as they did in previews.

From my personal experience with DOA3, I barely noticed a difference from DOA2, mainly cause I dont pay much attention to graphics, but gameplay in fighting games.  But in general, what I noticed was a smoother and touched up appearance.  Overall, very little difference for me cause the actual graphics and model essentials were not changed but just touched up.  

As for Ninja Gaiden, I kinda felt that after the third one of NES, it was over for the series.  I think the first one rocked, very hard game.  The 2nd one was good and the 3rd one was like the finish.  Only so much you can do with the same gameplay base. (Was there one for SNES?)

So this game will probably have to copy from the MGS/Tenchu/Shenmue genre.  I just do not see the original Ninja Gaiden game being brought to today\'s standard.  It may be good, it may be bad.  It\'s doubtful to be original, that is a hard task to conquer after all.  But then it is also made by Tecmo.  What was the last excellent game they made.

This will probably be a good game, but nothing to go crazy over for and definitely not worth buying an Xbox for.
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« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2002, 07:37:11 PM »
Lol Blunt, his name is fatson, not fastson.

You\'re going to offend him like I did earlier today--don\'t mention it, just giving you a heads\'s up.
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« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2002, 09:30:54 PM »
yunno.. not that long ago, i was almost sure that Tecmo was a company with integrity.  WTF happened to that?  DoA3 was nothing but a hack on DoA2 with prettier graphics, Dead of Alive Extreme Volleyball??!  WTF!?.. and a Ninja Gaiden game.  I dont know how the game will play.  If its like DMC then im sure it\'ll be good, but i seriously doubt they will be putting in all the stops to appeal to hardcore fans and make a good, original quality game.  i dunno.. ever since i saw DoA:EV i think i just went insane.

buh.. :mad:  guess we\'ll have to wait and see what its like.

BTW, what kind of ninja has that kind of physique!?!
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« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2002, 10:39:58 PM »
Thanks Watchdog

Remember back in tha day when Tecmo made awesome games for NES.  Ahhh that was when Capcom was barely starting out and it was just Tecmo, Nintendo, Konami, Acclaim and Sega.
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« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2002, 11:00:06 PM »
I definitely remember that.  Tecmo Bowl and Tecmo Baseball were some of the finest games they made.
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