Morrowind on XBox... Crappy?

wasnt palty two years ago huh?

and the xbox out performs any console on the planet.

and this means what anymore?
what sells more, a ferarri or a cavalier?

i wonder what youll be saying 6 months from now when/if the xbox is still being trounced by PS2

when did u become the personal defender of m$?
i can put "Captain XBOX" as yer user title it will make u feel more important

Originally posted by Watchdog
I consider myself repremanded.

You know, I really did find it funny how you corrected Billy for his grammar, yet you went on and made spelling errors.

Just havin fun

But what\'s even more funny is that I wrote \'grammer\' instead of \'grammar\' and had to fix my own mistake

Originally posted by mm
here\'s the just of what anandtech says



so which site do we believe?
one says its a celeron, the other says its not

the chip STILL possesses a 128k cache, which = celeron based to me

and how cheated do we feel to gain 10% performance to save m$ construction costs :rolleyes:

mm, which with you and celerons?

AFAIK, that "celeron" has a 8-way associative cache, unlike a real celeron w/ 4-way associative cache. Plus with a 133 FSB, the speed difference is that much from a full PIII. Look at it from a console\'s point view. A console won\'t be using a lot of complex sets of instructions that would really require a 256k cache. The difference should be minimum. Besides, like Watchdog side, MS had to draw the line [for costs] at some point.

a 733mhz restricted coppermine chip was a mistake, they could have went with a MUCH faster cpu, and you know it.

i see yer frustrated and im sorry, but you cant deny what they did was for cost control, and in the long run, it will limit what the xbox can do.

ill let someone else tell you why the EE chip > coppermine

All the consoles have a weak point somewhere. GC & DC lacked flexibility IIRC. The PS2 may have the most potent CPU, but it also has the weakest GPU, at least when textures are concerned. Something about only half its pipelines have TMUs and a 1.2 GB/s connection.

why do people keep thinking im comparing the xbox to the PS2, OR saying one is better than the other

i keep telling myself  to put a disclaimer in my sig

Originally posted by mm
why do people keep thinking im comparing the xbox to the PS2, OR saying one is better than the other

i keep telling myself  to put a disclaimer in my sig

I\'m just trying to say that you shouldn\'t bash the Xbox for it\'s "celeron". It\'s a decent chip.

yeah real decent.....for me to poop on!

m$ cut a corner that shouldnt be cut

who\'s to blame for the mockery that morrowind turned out to be?
the dev?  the xbox is the easiest console ever to develop for.

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Let\'s see if Ginko responds differently to a different person.

ginko?  im putting on two pairs of underwear before watchdog crawls up my butt again

Yeah, I rented Morrowind tonight (was surprised to see it there).

Framerate is at a pretty consistent 30, but the draw in is absolutely terrible.  The fog is there to hide it, but it does a ****ty job of it.  There are also a lot of those split second (literally) pauses for caching that are annoying and give me a headache.  Animation is stiff.  And at no point in the game have I stopped and admired the graphics.  They look just like the PC screens, but with a very short draw distence.

Loading a saved game is too long a wait.

I don\'t know what the problem is, the graphics aren\'t great, the areas aren\'t that large, the textures range from average to poor, but the engine is terrible.  Especially compared to the other games out there.

I like the gameplay though--it\'s basically an old time PC RPG.  

But what\'s all that crap about the character creation model that was supposed to be so great?  It\'s horrible, takes too long, it\'s new at all.  I don\'t know why they put a NDA on it, and made it out to be so revolutionary.

It\'s also one of those games that have you, the mighty warrior, pitted against grubs and rats for the beginning of the game.  What an ego blow that is.  What ever happened to goblins and orcs?

Also, I wish there was some sort of target lock on, because fighting becomes difficult in the clutch.

*gasp*  watchdog?  is this yer "good" twin?  :P

yeah, i also got it from work, and promptly drove back and got WSB2003 instead

great game, but boring to play
felt like the computer controls 75% of yer fielding

Considering the job that the Xbox\'s CPU is given, it\'s more than decent.

Originally posted by mm
who\'s to blame for the mockery that morrowind turned out to be?
the dev?

Yes. Please correct me if I\'m wrong, but isn\'t this game still kind of chugging(key words: kind of) on even high end CPUs with patches/mods?

the xbox is the easiest console ever to develop for.

Easy? Yes. Easiest? No. That\'s the GCN.

WSB is stellar.  I\'m picking that and an xbox up for my brother\'s birthday (he loves Sega and baseball).

Morrowind, I wasn\'t really expecting much.  If they would have done half, twice as good it would be worth it, but we don\'t get that.

yeah, you xbox fans get *edited for content*

i wouldnt call WSB2003 steller
its a great baseball game thats marred by lack of control

Lack of control is only there for the out fielders.  You still have to do it, but they make it as it should be: easy.  It\'s still possible to miss a pop fly, but when someone comes over to play, they shouldn\'t have trouble fielding with the Yankees.

Fielding is easy in baseball, and it should be easy in baseball games.  The liners and gap flies are still tough to make, as they should be.

so why should they make it easy?

like they did with tagging in JGRF?

as with any baseball game today (and in real life)
its a home run fest

i\'ll take high heat baseball anyday