NBA Finals: Lakers vs. Nets

Yeah, but I think that Fisher vs. Harper one is wrong. Seems like Fisher is getting burned a LOT these days, and his scoring is pretty minimal. Harper was the 2nd or 3rd best defender on that old team (Jordan and Pippen, take your pick), and he could pop a clutch three when it was needed.

Also, another huge part of that team was Steve Kerr. That guy ruled, 3 point threat from wherever, and a great point guard. That guy ruled, and still rules to this day

Edit: How tall IS Horry, anyway? I know that Rodman was 6\'10, and if Horry has a sufficient height advangate, then, meh.

I REALLY don\'t know where you guys get playing Devean George as center.  He\'s a small forward or a shooting guard if anything.  He\'s NEVER played center.  The only people on the Lakers roster right now that play center are Walker, Madsen, Medvedenko, and sometimes Horry.  Basically Lakers don\'t have a decent backup center, and if they didnt have Shaq, the first person that they\'d place is most likely Walker.  Definitely not George.

With that said... all those players I mentioned who plays the center position.. would probably be almost nil to nothing when paired up against Luc Longley.

But then again, if Shaq didn\'t exist in the Lakers, I\'m sure upper management would fill the spot with some big man who can actually play center.  Especially with the money they\'d have left over.

Oh yeah.. and Pippen has never been known to be a clutch player nor a leader.  Pressure gets to him, and has always got to him.  He\'s a good player, and is skilled.  And when the pressure was on, he always had a dependable teammate in Michael Jordan, so he didnt have to sweat as much, but he\'s definitely never been known to strive under pressure.  So in that sense, I\'d say Kobe > Pippen.

Harper in his prime would smoke Fisher.  Harper\'s a better shooter/play maker than Fisher ever will be.

Fox vs. Kukoc... hmm i dunno.. hard one to call..

Horry vs. Rodman.. hard one too because each served a different role as a support cast.  Rodman was more defensive, Horry is more offense minded.

Overall, beats the crap out of me.  I\'d say its pretty even, but the Lakers do have a better star in Kobe than the bulls in Pippen.  The support cast, I think the bulls would have the edge here.  if it was a seven game series, it\'d definitely go down to the seventh game.. but really its a toss up as to who would win.. But then again.. who\'s the only player on both teams that would be willing to make the clutch plays and make the shots down the line?  Horry and Kobe perhaps?

Kerr and Kukoc perhaps? In the Bulls last run at the finals, Kerr won Game 1 with the game winning 18 footer I believe.

You pretty much pinned the needle on the head, though. It\'d be a cool series to watch, too

See Yuz.

Yeah thats why I said that Devean George doesn\'t even play center.

People are talking about Fisher being burned so much, well because I\'m sure you\'ve only been watching him during these playoffs and not the regular season. These playoffs he\'s had to matchup with Bonzi Wells (Who he did well against), Tony Parker, Mike Bibby and now Jason Kidd. He\'s playing the top PGs in the league. The guy is a great defensive player! He can\'t run with the big dogs, but don\'t label him as mediocre only because he\'s forced to play the best right now.

Well, that was the thing, Harper COULD guard the big dogs of the league. Oh, remember in last year\'s finals, where mah man Tyrron Lue was guardin\' Iverson half the time, and doin\' a damn good job on him? Almost Won Game 1 of last year\'s finals last year, simply becuase Lue was the sparkplug that made it a game. The Crowd chantin\' "LUUUUUUUE!" durin\' the 2nd half, that was godlike.

Err, *cough*, anyway, Harper good, Fisher Mediocre :-D

See Yuz.

Weren\'t you the one that said Fisher could guard Bibby before the Kings series? Maybe not you, but yeah.


That would be an awesome series.

Kobe vs. Pippen - Pippen probably had the defensive edge. Kobe has the slight offensive edge. Dead even I\'d say.

Fisher vs. Harper/Kerr - Harper/Kerr. Like James said Harper was an excellent defender, then throw in Kerr and his great shooting. I don\'t see Fisher stopping him.

Longley vs. Laker center - Depends on who the center is.

Fox vs. Kukoc - Even there. Both play decent D with some offense.

Rodman vs. Horry - Tie again. Rodman played great D and was an excellent rebounder. But he lacked on the offensive end. Horry is good on offense and can hit the open shot. Meh, tie.


Advantage - Bulls....in a close game 7. Throw in MJ and Shaq, Bulls win in 6....maybe 7.

Hah.. Before I thought it was dead even, but if you throw in Shaq and MJ, I just don\'t see anyone slowing down Shaq.

But Kobe on MJ.... Man this is a series I would love to see.

Well, my entire point was to compare the two teams without the help of their best superstar, and you both have ruined that completely :P

Oh well, **** happens.

Waaah! ! HE STARTED IT !!! !!!

Longley vs. Shaq - Shaq of course, but Longley might do something.

Rodman vs. Horry - thats already been discussed

Pippen on Fox - Pippen would run circles around Fox.

Jordan vs. Kobe - Jordan wins. If you doubt that you should be beat over the head with a stick. Jordan in his prime was unstopable. He\'d still average 30 points against Kobe....maybe 25.

Harper vs. Fisher - Been discussed too.


Then you have the benches. You have Kukoc and Kerr off the Bulls, and you have...George off the Lakers...


Bulls in 6.



*laughs at James*

I am an advent Lakers fan.  I did post earlier somethin like Nets in 4, but no I never got a reply to it..  was a sarcastic piece of mine, but it really wasnt funny.

Anyways, I\'ve been watching almost every lakers game in every season for I dunno..  a long time.  And I\'ve seen Derrick Fisher over the years, and he\'s a decent player, but not a good player.  I still think he\'s mediocre.  The only time I thought that he was really good was last year when he came back from his injury and started making his shots like crazy.

Fisher\'s got this thing with lack of confidence and stuff.  He plays great when he has the confidence, but he\'s not really the smartest point guard around.  He makes some good plays.. has some good defensive stops.. but I really don\'t think he\'s that much better than Lindsey Hunter.  Well, actually i take that back.. I don\'t like Hunter that much either.. Looks too much to shoot the three and dribbles the ball way too much.  Takes away from the triangle.

But even still.  Fisher has a lot of aspects of his game he still needs to work on.  He\'s slowly been improving, yet I haven\'t seen anything significant from him yet.

And Tyron Lue?  The guy was a no namer for 2 or 3 years for the Lakers.  He hardly played during the regular season, and his role in the Lakers was basically to guard Iverson durin the finals, and that was it.  He did do a good job chasin Iverson down, and I was actually impressed by it, but he\'s definitly not better than Fisher.  Lue\'s still young and has a lot to learn still.  Personally I think Kobe did a better job of shutting down Iverson than Lue did in the finals.  There was a game where Kobe held Iverson scoreless in the second half of a game back in the season last year. Blocks after blocks after steals.  Its the whole size advantage thing, and how Phil really hates using small guards too.

Meh, oh well, Bulls probably did have the better team...

Would be fun to watch though...wish we could :P

Edit: Oh, and the only reason why I like Lue is because he went to the University of Nebraska, which is located here in Lincoln. He was the best player we had, and he was the main reason that his teams went to the Big Dance when he was there. And Lue DID do a better job than Kobe last year...didn\'t matter though, they won in 5. Besides, Kobe never guarded Iverson, it was always Fisher.

See Yuz.

Fisher needs to pull his headband up...bugs the shiat out of me for no good reason.

James just likes Lue because he played for Nebraska.

Edit - Damn you and your editing. I said you liked him because he went to nebraska first!

Koko you are absolutly right. Fisher isn\'t superb, but he is a good all-around PG. He does jack the 3 ball up alot and can make bad decisions, but I recall him making huge three\'s in alot of games. I guess a good word to describe him would be, inconsistent.

The Lakers PG spot has been unstable since "MY MAN" Nick Van Exel hauled ass. God I was a Van Exel fanboy (As well as an Eddie Jones one too). Ever since people have came and gone, Harper and Lue for instance. Harper did a solid job, and koko is right with Lue. Lue was a no namer and rarely got play time during the regular season, I recall him making some plays but he wasn\'t in Fisher\'s league yet.

And since we are discussing PG\'s.. Whats up with Mitch Richmond? This guy has only one game these playoffs for like 1 minute against his former Kings. I don\'t follow Richmond much at all but I do think he is the Sacramento Kings all-time points leader. However his defense is sub-par.

Richmond is being waisted. He is a scorer, not a defensive player, which is why he doens\'t play, at all. It\'s a load of ****, but oh well.

Oh, and GO HUSKERS! I know Lue wasn\'t great with the Lakers, but he\'s a Husker, so he\'s cool