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« Reply #90 on: July 08, 2002, 01:03:49 PM »
20-90k is not huge considering even the xbox\'s userbase.  They are betting the farm on 2007, not now.  But now, they will be content to build slowly.  That billion dollars is not a quick fix, it\'s an INVESTMENT.
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« Reply #91 on: July 08, 2002, 01:11:44 PM »
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I don\'t think either company really thinks it\'s going to b3 huge this generation.



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« Reply #92 on: July 08, 2002, 02:04:07 PM »
I think online is ****. I always play single player to the fullest before venturing online in a PC game. It\'s an afterthought for me, a neat addition that takes a backseat to a good story and great single player gameplay. I just hope online doesn\'t completely saturate the market and we are stuck with way to many "multi-player only" games. Screw that.
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« Reply #93 on: July 08, 2002, 03:14:22 PM »
Online is a huge plus for people in my situation. I have friends all over the world basically, since I move so often. Its good to get together and play videogames as if I never left sometimes, sure its not the same, but its as close as you can get. Online is great, multiplayer, yes, is better.
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« Reply #94 on: July 08, 2002, 03:49:59 PM »
hate to break it to ya, but playing friends that reside half a world away online = teh suck

especially since yer on the west side of the country
ever try pinging a UK server?  ouch
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« Reply #95 on: July 08, 2002, 04:43:15 PM »
Online is good if it\'s free.  Ask us Warcraft 3 nerds.
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« Reply #96 on: July 08, 2002, 06:05:54 PM »
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« Reply #97 on: July 08, 2002, 08:07:37 PM »
Yeah, it\'s tough to play people in the UK.
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« Reply #98 on: July 09, 2002, 12:49:56 AM »
Man I agree with MM. I don\'t see online gaming caring the console industry.  Unless it\'s free I don\'t see it being huge on consoles yet.

Sure people are getting all pump but when it comes to paying that monthy bill people are not going to be willing to fork over the cash. majority of kids and teenager can\'t afford it. And then there are those like me who are 18 and over and just don\'t care.
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« Reply #99 on: July 09, 2002, 08:04:46 AM »
mm - funny I don\'t notice anything different playing UK people over US people when I am on broadband. Perhaps that is why MS chose BB?

I am very excited about online gaming for all the systems. Each system has at least one online game I am excited for. If a game on DC can get over 250,000 constant users at it\'s peak, I am sure people on the other 3 systems will have no problem finding competition.

 
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« Reply #100 on: July 09, 2002, 08:32:02 AM »
Woah.. two Eric Jacobs for the price of one :eek:  Bonus!!

Sorry this thread is just the same stuff over and over so i have no need to add to it :)
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« Reply #101 on: July 09, 2002, 08:39:25 AM »
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funny I don\'t notice anything different playing UK people over US people when I am on broadband


thats because:

a. you just love to disagree with anything i say
b. you dont know wtf yer talking about

pick yer answer, there both the same

ANYONE will tell you playing online across the big pond = teh suck
tracert a euro site and watch how many hops yer packets take

here\'s mine to BBC website, if it makes any sense to you

C:\\>tracert http://www.bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to http://www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.224.122]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1   467 ms   393 ms   300 ms  10.17.36.1
  2   196 ms   299 ms   302 ms  24.50.161.6
  3   199 ms   297 ms   299 ms  24.48.8.117
  4   198 ms   299 ms   309 ms  24.48.8.61
  5   289 ms   308 ms   299 ms  g1-02-00 00.r0.pit00.adelphiacom.net [66.109.11.
133]
  6   229 ms   296 ms   301 ms  p3-01-00-00-n0.dca00.adelphiacom.net [66.109.0.7
3]
  7   200 ms   302 ms   300 ms  p3-00-00-00.r0.dca00.adelphiacom.net [66.109.0.1
42]
  8   202 ms   302 ms   298 ms  p3-00-00-00.p0.dca90.adelphiacom.net [66.109.6.1
50]
  9   222 ms   303 ms   295 ms  rt3-atm-2-0.thny.bbc.co.uk [198.32.187.113]
 10   360 ms   301 ms   301 ms  rt3-A2-0.thny.bbc.co.uk [212.58.255.37]
 11   433 ms   297 ms   297 ms  rt1-GE2-0.thny.bbc.co.uk [212.58.255.82]
 12   508 ms   296 ms   297 ms  rt0-POS7-1.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.255.181]
 13   273 ms   299 ms   306 ms  212.58.224.122

Trace complete.

and how about a ping

C:\\>ping http://www.bbc.co.uk

Pinging http://www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.224.122] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.58.224.122: bytes=32 time=395ms TTL=242
Reply from 212.58.224.122: bytes=32 time=304ms TTL=242
Reply from 212.58.224.122: bytes=32 time=503ms TTL=242
Reply from 212.58.224.122: bytes=32 time=402ms TTL=242

Ping statistics for 212.58.224.122:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 304ms, Maximum = 503ms, Average = 401ms

oh, imagine that

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« Reply #102 on: July 09, 2002, 08:48:50 AM »
would playing with UK people on UK servers in PSO be any different? Cause I experienced no slowdown and no problems when doing that.

I do love disagreeing with you. It makes me look good.


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« Reply #103 on: July 09, 2002, 08:57:23 AM »
yes it would make a difference
PSO is EXTREMELY bandwidth NON-intensive

try playing a racing game, or a FPS, or a fighter with a 300ms ping and see what happens, *shudder*

yes "look good", as in "appear good"
when we know better
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« Reply #104 on: July 09, 2002, 11:00:25 AM »
I agree with MM. I used to play Q3 CTF on a Netherlands server because I got along with most of the regulars well but my ping was 180-240 most of the time, I ended up not going there anymore cuz it was to damn laggy. Compare that to 30-70 when I am on a North American server.
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