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Offline Bobs_Hardware

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« Reply #60 on: July 21, 2002, 11:16:03 PM »
ugh

Hey Watchdog.. I have seen mm bash PS2 games that are running at 30fps.  GTA3 was one of them.  Most of his Frames Per Second bashing comes against action/first pereson shooter games, as they are the ones where framerate is more important.

For some reason his version of Medal of Honor had a great framerate.. most of the other big action titles (excluding Red Faction) actually do run at 60fps.  TimeSplitters, Quake, Twisted Metal, Metal Gear Solid etc. etc. ^^^Some of which are near launch titles.

Although I personally think Medal of Honor has a horribly jumpy framerate when compared to games like Halo or Red Faction, I can at least see where mm is coming from.  And wont put his points down to just blatant fanboyism as you and Altered Beast would put it.  Although being a PS2 fanboy myself, it probably doesnt hold much weight :)
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« Reply #61 on: July 22, 2002, 12:23:38 AM »
Frame rate this, frame rate that.... Xbox this, xbox that. YUO ALL AR TEH SUX0R!111
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« Reply #62 on: July 22, 2002, 03:22:05 AM »
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Like I said games always look and perform better on xbox.


except for spyhunter and that surfing game *snicker*


watchdog, is anyhome home?
ive been saying this for some time now
the xbox had better run games better than the PS2

but when its games look like shite or just run at 30 fps, you make an excuse (or blatantly change the subject and auto-insult the PS2)
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« Reply #63 on: July 22, 2002, 05:19:50 AM »
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Like I said in the previous post: Do you remember the quality of first-gen PS2 games?

Speaking of which, have you seen the first gen JAPANESE PS2 games?


Hi nona...don\'t waste your time with blind PS2 fanboys like the loser fasty fasty...

Jap PS2 first gen games looked like total crap...and even most of 2nd and 3rd gen of PS2 games look like crap compared to XBox and GCN games...

There\'re so many good XBox games coming out in the first months that the poor PS2 could only imagine and dream...
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« Reply #64 on: July 22, 2002, 05:27:37 AM »
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Don\'t even compare xbox to ps2.  Just look at any game that is on both systems and you\'ll find a better looking game with a better framerate.  Plus, I could name dozens of games that run well below 60 on pS2, big gamesincluded (ff?).  GT3 runs at 60, so does almost every racing game on xbox.  Platformers too?  Big deal, xbox\'s platformers are 60 as well.

Nice dodge of everything I brought up in my post mm.  Yes it\'s the most powerful, but why does the machine\'s power decide what the framerate should be and then that become the deciding factor of a game\'s worth?  Furthermore, why can you enjoy games emmensely on PS2 that run at 30, yet scorn anything that isn\'t 60 on xbox.  

The power of the machine should mean nothing.  Yet it does because it\'s the only straw desperate people have left to cling to.

I say again, it makes no logical sense.


Watchdog...still wasting time on the central of mindless PS2 fanboys?

XBox easy blows away PS2 in the graphics and sound department...every one knows that...

I play my XBox games and when I go to my friend Emanuele\'s home to play PS2 games...well...they look really sad...low-ressy,jaggy,derty...really sad...
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« Reply #65 on: July 22, 2002, 05:29:40 AM »
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Yes I do wonder..
Maybe BizioEE could cut and paste a few articles from TXB? ;)

Oh right.. He said all games on Xbox were designed on unfinished hardware.. Yep theres the problem.


This PS2 tool is truly obsessed by me
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« Reply #66 on: July 22, 2002, 05:36:43 AM »
good lord biz, been spending too much time on TXB?

and two replies to yerself?
for shame
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« Reply #67 on: July 22, 2002, 06:52:37 AM »
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XBox easy blows away PS2 in the graphics and sound department...every one knows that...
Lol, keep telling yourself that. If you say it enough times you might even believe it.
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« Reply #68 on: July 22, 2002, 07:03:30 AM »
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This PS2 tool is truly obsessed by me


Yes.. I want to sexxor YuO!!!111
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« Reply #69 on: July 22, 2002, 07:33:35 AM »
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Lol, keep telling yourself that. If you say it enough times you might even believe it.


aaahhhh XBox is a superior piece of hardware compared to the flawed PS2...it\'s a fact...not an opinion...

Both XBox and GCN are new hardware and can do better graphics...it seems that only blind PS2 fanboys can\'t accept it...
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« Reply #70 on: July 22, 2002, 07:34:36 AM »
You know BizioEE.. you were a much better poster when you actually liked good games

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« Reply #71 on: July 22, 2002, 07:38:22 AM »
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good lord biz, been spending too much time on TXB?

and two replies to yerself?
for shame


naahh...I spend half an hour a week on TXB and half an hour a month here...I\'m not a time waster like the loser fasty fasty...




bye...maybe you\'ll see me next month...
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« Reply #72 on: July 22, 2002, 07:46:48 AM »
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You know BizioEE.. you were a much better poster when you actually liked good games

:)


members like Chrono,seven,fastson,Terry and many others,some mods included,all together have "killed" this forum...

...I get disgusted when I see fanboys like fasty...it\'s not a question of games...

edited... I "like" you Bobs...a metaphoric kiss for you :p
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« Reply #73 on: July 22, 2002, 07:56:27 AM »
nah, if you were here more often you\'d see a change.

Chrono has grown up just a tad, seven has made a 180 as far as attitude goes, Terry hasn\'t been here in a month...fastson...well, he\'s still here and rightfully so.  

Remember this is a PS2 forum...

no more personal attacks
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« Reply #74 on: July 22, 2002, 08:02:37 AM »
Sure Xbox is a superior piece of hardware (compared to other consoles, not a PC ;)). Too bad it doesn\'t have ½ the good games PS2 has. :)
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