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« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2002, 05:04:25 AM »
the xbox is a small PC no?
it has PC components no?
i shouldnt compare it to PC titles?
especially against ports?

you CANNOT tell me the xbox shot has the same amount and quality of textures as the PC version in those shots.  i wont even mention the blur in the xbox version, OOOPS! i just did *laff*

i dont expect the PS2 to have better graphics.  i expect it to have better control (which is most certainly will).  i also expect it to sell 10x the amount of copies than the xbox version will (which it also most certainly will).

just makes you defensive when the xbox looks bad
its like you have this auto-insult PS2-reflex whenever teh PS2 K1LLAH trips
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« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2002, 07:05:43 AM »
No the xbox is not a small PC.  It\'s a console with fixed hardware.

No console can hope to match a top of the line PC.  You know that, I know that.  PS2 can\'t hope to match an xbox game.  You know that, I know that.

Yet you laugh when xbox has inferior graphics to a PC.  But claim that PS2 can have lesser quality graphics because its older...

Again, what\'s that make you?  I have a couple ideas. :rolleyes:



EDIT: and no I don\'t see lower quality textures or blurring.  I see a difference of lighting and resolution.

EDIT#2:  Here\'s some good screens from the xbox version:

http://www.teamxbox.com/screenshot.php?sid=7043&gid=374
http://www.teamxbox.com/screenshot.php?sid=7042&gid=374
http://www.teamxbox.com/screenshot.php?sid=4609&gid=374
« Last Edit: July 19, 2002, 08:08:01 AM by Watchdog »
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« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2002, 11:18:38 AM »
Umm.. Have a look at page numer 1.. Then look at the first screen you linked to..
Same pic, just resized.. Its a PC screen.

Have a look at the Xbox screen I posted. Click properties.. See where it says 640x480? Then look at the screen again. See the small jaggies? This is what a framebuffer looks like, the silky smooth images are almost always resized.
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« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2002, 12:05:41 PM »
Fast seems to have a good point. But, no matter how good those posted screens look - unfortunately videos of in-game footage underline that this game does not look as good as in the screens posted above, well, at least on Xbox that is (don\'t know about the PC version).

Lets hope though that it was just a crappy demo shown at E3 and that the game will look as good (and have a very decent framerate).

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« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2002, 01:39:19 PM »
How do you know they\'re PC screens?  

At any rate, my point still stands that it\'s not a comparison that should hold any water.  They aren\'t in competition and shouldn\'t be.  PCs should have better graphics.

Plus, I have a magazine right in front of me that has shots from the xbox game and they too look much better than the one you posted.
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« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2002, 03:51:07 PM »
The screens pstwo posted are infact PC screens (as I proved)

The first shot you linked to is the EXACT same screen (look at the details, every pixel is the same.. Only that the colours are slightly darker in the screen you linked to. Can easily be adjusted in Photoshop ect.) only resized to a smaller resolution.

You also see the difference of the character models in the comparison screens I posted. Xbox version has more blurry looking textures and some minor jaggies.

Im not bashing either game.. Just stating the facts compañero.
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« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2002, 05:08:09 PM »
I\'m not disputing it, I\'m still curious how you proved it.

Also, the textures are exactly the same.  I can see no extra blur.  The jaggies are there no doubt.  I see a higher resolution picture that has different lighting, but beyond that it is the same.
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« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2002, 05:15:53 PM »
Check out the floor about 5 meters away from where he is sitting.. Looks abit more blurred than the PC shot.

Also the texture on the walls look more blurry IMO. And the characters textures look somewhat more blurry too (check where the suit "ends" on his neck)

I can see a pretty big difference.. And I dont think its the lightning.
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« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2002, 05:25:02 PM »
Well it\'s tough to see really, but it still looks like lighting/contrast.

I guess we\'ll see when it\'s released.
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« Reply #39 on: July 19, 2002, 07:08:17 PM »
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Originally posted by mm
ugh, how childish

its embarrising


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« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2002, 04:41:46 AM »
Yesterday they showed the E3 demo (Xbox version) on TV.
The lighting was nice and the character model had great detail.Framerate was unstable though, but it was also an early version.
But it looks more like it will be another 30 FPS game.

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« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2002, 06:43:31 AM »
better not be 30 FPS
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« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2002, 06:52:40 AM »
Ugh.  I can\'t stand the fact that developers go to so much effort to make their games pretty in pictures, but let their games run at 30fps.

LOWER THE POLYGON COUNT, REDUCE THE TEXTURES, WHATEVER JUST MAKE IT RUN NICE AND SMOOTH

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« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2002, 07:28:27 AM »
but NO!  they cant

its an xbox game so it has to abuse bump mapping and higher textures

the xbox zealots dont care about frames per second

it could run at 4 fps, but if it looks good, its the shiznit
ever play the shrek game?  *shudder*
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« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2002, 07:31:58 AM »
Well I was referring to videogames in general :)  Not specifically the XBox.

With PS2 its even worse because the games might look like absolute crap and still run at 30fps :(

But with XBox its more noticable that the majority of devs appear to be concentrating more on making their screenshots look nice rather than the the framerate.

And it baffles me.

^^^ That\'s right.... i said baffles

 

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