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« Reply #120 on: July 18, 2002, 11:43:44 AM »
I\'ve seen the ps2 dvd player in comparison to the one in my living room and the difference is like night and day.  I have personal experience, why do I need a link to prove that?  As I said, i own 4 DVD players and I KNOW which one is the best and that goes straight to the stand alone DVD player without question.
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« Reply #121 on: July 18, 2002, 11:45:15 AM »
Heh, it\'s so frustrating to see people ignoring my good points.  I\'ll try one more time, real simple, and then I\'ll back out.

"Gamecube has good games so it\'s good."

No nonsense about cost, about DVDs, about Nintendo, about cars, about air-conditioning, nothing.

"Gamecube has good games so it\'s good."

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« Reply #122 on: July 18, 2002, 11:54:24 AM »
actually, the picture quality of the PS2 is said to be quite good - and better than the average DVD-standalone player outthere. I really doubt that a $65 dollar "no-name" dvd-player can match the quality of any Sony dvd-player (including PS2). Ironic thing is though, most people on this very board probably have a crap TV and wouldn\'t be able to tell a difference between a dvd movie played on an Xbox, a PS2 or a standalone dvd player priced with 3 zeros. That\'s the hard truth, yet there are so many that **** around about "better quality" eventhough they wouldn\'t be able to really tell a difference. :rolleyes:

I\'ll give you one thing and that\'s user friendliness. Now that\'s where the PS2 seriously lacks and it obviously needs to sell that remote control for it to be more convinient for people to use. And that goes for any console at the moment and is also directed to all those DVD-ROM players out there. But who cares? A console\'s primary purpose is for games (well still is) and a PC\'s for worksheets etc.

Nintendo is obviously sticking with the traditional games-only route, which is not bad - however I feel that the market is slowly changing and Nintendo will have to adopt sooner or later (if they make into a next generation that is). It is no suprise that Sony and Microsoft are both trying to take the lead in the livingroom - that\'s why we have a PS2/Xbox with DVD-video playback in the first place.

Oh and Clowd. I see where you\'re coming from, but you\'re a bit hard on Nintendo. I mean, I might not be getting one either for the very same reasons as you do, but I at least respect them for what they do. Including a DVD-player would have been a bad idea for Nintendo since they

1. Don\'t have the necessary experience/resources
2. are partners with Matsushita who obviously have a great influence
3. did want to be able to compete against Sony (low selling price)
4. would have payed more (DVD license)
5. loose out on pirate copies

Nintendo did what they had to do. If they wouldn\'t have, I dare to think where they would be now. So as you see, Nintendo didn\'t choose to be cheap this generation, but smart. I do wonder however how they\'ll go around next generation... IF they don\'t go 3rd party.

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« Reply #123 on: July 18, 2002, 12:02:08 PM »
I\'m going to follow up on Eiksirf\'s post here, actually.. it\'s more of an enhancement to his quote.

"The GameCube has good exclusive games so it\'s good"
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« Reply #124 on: July 18, 2002, 12:07:58 PM »
GameCube has good games?

But does it still play DVDs? No? Then it still sucks and tries to WASH YOUR BRAIN IF YOU\'RE NOT CAREFUL! WATCH OUT, BEHIND YOU! ****ING \'CUBE! \'TIS MADNESS I TELL YOU! *wrestles with a pink cube holding a toilet brush and a soap*

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« Reply #125 on: July 18, 2002, 12:11:01 PM »
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"The GameCube has good exclusive games so it\'s good"


I agree,  but Im waiting for Mario Sunshine and Zelda.  When do they come out?

Does Nintendo have any good exclusive games right now?

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« Reply #126 on: July 18, 2002, 12:43:47 PM »
Good, and great. Yeah.
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« Reply #127 on: July 18, 2002, 12:56:45 PM »
now you are giving us a lecture on dvds lets face it psx and xbox are gaming systems and the cube is a gaming console. so why are you trying to bring in another device to try to make youre argument about  the gaming systems look bad. when in reality we are talking about gaming systems and gaming consoles. not a panasonic dvd player or a sony dvd player or any other off brand dvd players .when infact those devices dont play games we are debating  about gaming system and gaming consoles . period so tell us something good about the game cube and youre why its so much cheaper system and why are the games so much better in comparison to the ones that are out there for the game cube.now here is a comparison..i have a pc my freind has a Mac i cant use most of his software and he cant use mine but we both run the same os or windows Me. k 1st point they both play games too but not all the same titles too my point is they are computer sysems they play dvd\'s,surf the internet,run software, and  play games.. but this argument about game cube brain washing. specs has takin a downfall if you want to know the truth,ask yourself this. gaming system or gaming console wich one do i like ? and why. am i buying this for a name brand or for its purpose. to each his on..and a penny saved is a penny earned.Confucius say[ less mouth movement and more listening will make for more learning about what people are telling you] but when you assume something, benny hill said it you make an ass out of you and me so you.have based youre whole debate on pointless and no specs but on youre speculation.you delete and change things to suite youre way fine you are not very good debater or do you spell good either ill give you credit on youre bashing and name calling i dont blame you i blame youre back ground or the way some one brought you up as a child. :crying:
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« Reply #128 on: July 18, 2002, 01:09:31 PM »
damn, I hate it when kids act as if their adults... :(

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when in reality we are talking about gaming systems and gaming consoles. not a panasonic dvd player or a sony dvd player or any other off brand dvd players. when infact those devices dont play games we are debating about gaming system and gaming consoles .


Great, we agree. So why bring up the DVD-playback function up in the first place? And it\'s entertainment system versus game-console.

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period so tell us something good about the game cube


The games and the price. If you don\'t like \'em, don\'t buy it. It\'s that simple really. End of conversation. Oh and get a damn life.

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« Reply #129 on: July 18, 2002, 03:12:46 PM »
Wow.. six pages. I\'m surprised this idocy has lasted this long.  It\'s really a simple equasion..

If you like Nintnedo\'s games.. buy a GameCube. If you don\'t.. then move on. Adding DVD movie playback to the NGC isn\'t going to make Mario or Zelda anymore fun. Nor is buying a PS2 or Xbox for it\'s Sub-Par DVD player going to make you yern for a Mario or Zelda title any less (If you\'re a fan of those games). I just don\'t understand it.. the PSX didn\'t have DVD playback.. did that make it anyless fun? The SNES and Genesis didn\'t have it either. Does that mean they weren\'t worth their $300 price tag?

Clowd, movingstereo, coke, and other intillectual midgets.. I think you have to understand something about the members here at these boards. We\'re gamers. In simple terms.. that means we like games. We buy our videogame systems because of the games. Most of us don\'t limit ourselves to one console. See, this is where I think you\'re brains are loosing comprehension. You\'re still stuck in that 10 year old - 16bit "One console and One console only" mentality. You pick a brand name to support, for whatever reasons, like a redneck picks a football team. And jus like that redneck, you can do nothing else but bash the competition to make yourself feel better about your own purchase.. and IMO.. boost your self esteem. Trying to be on the "winning" side as it were.

You just don\'t understand that most of us here are multiconsole gamers. There are, on the whole, more fans of specific game companies than of console makers here. Why? Well like everyone\'s been trying to beat into your heads for past 6 pages.. it\'s all about the games.

If you have a problem with Nintnedo as a company or the calibur of games which are most proliferant on their system.. then that\'s fine. Complain about their 3rd party licencing structure, complain about their target audience, complain about the controller\'s shape.. but for christ\'s sake.. at least complain about something relevant to GAMING.
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« Reply #130 on: July 18, 2002, 03:48:32 PM »
SonyFan: Yay!

One thing though.. back in th\' 16-bit days, there were plenty of multi-console gamers. I had a few systems, my cousin had all 4 big ones (NES, SNES, Genesis, TG16) and my best friend had an abundance of stuff.

My other cousin was a God damned rich hardcore gamer (his parents were worth millions) and he had just about everything under the sun too. First kid on the block to get a Genesis when it came out, and the PSX too.

So "we\'ve" been around for a while! ;)
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« Reply #131 on: July 18, 2002, 04:21:34 PM »
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Wow.. six pages. I\'m surprised this idocy has lasted this long.  It\'s really a simple equasion..

If you like Nintnedo\'s games.. buy a GameCube. If you don\'t.. then move on. Adding DVD movie playback to the NGC isn\'t going to make Mario or Zelda anymore fun. Nor is buying a PS2 or Xbox for it\'s Sub-Par DVD player going to make you yern for a Mario or Zelda title any less (If you\'re a fan of those games). I just don\'t understand it.. the PSX didn\'t have DVD playback.. did that make it anyless fun? The SNES and Genesis didn\'t have it either. Does that mean they weren\'t worth their $300 price tag?

Clowd, movingstereo, coke, and other intillectual midgets.. I think you have to understand something about the members here at these boards. We\'re gamers. In simple terms.. that means we like games. We buy our videogame systems because of the games. Most of us don\'t limit ourselves to one console. See, this is where I think you\'re brains are loosing comprehension. You\'re still stuck in that 10 year old - 16bit "One console and One console only" mentality. You pick a brand name to support, for whatever reasons, like a redneck picks a football team. And jus like that redneck, you can do nothing else but bash the competition to make yourself feel better about your own purchase.. and IMO.. boost your self esteem. Trying to be on the "winning" side as it were.

You just don\'t understand that most of us here are multiconsole gamers. There are, on the whole, more fans of specific game companies than of console makers here. Why? Well like everyone\'s been trying to beat into your heads for past 6 pages.. it\'s all about the games.

If you have a problem with Nintnedo as a company or the calibur of games which are most proliferant on their system.. then that\'s fine. Complain about their 3rd party licencing structure, complain about their target audience, complain about the controller\'s shape.. but for christ\'s sake.. at least complain about something relevant to GAMING.


It\'s called evolving. Consoles aren\'t going to be JUST for gaming anymore. They will become multi faceted tools, to play movies, CD\'s, and even chat and play games online. I like Nintendo I have owned an NES and a SNES console and will probaly get a GC but does that mean I don\'t acknowledge their faults? Hell no but I will not take it as far as clowd or coke and say that Nintendo sucks for not including these features. I just think both sides have taken this way to far, one side screaming that anything that doesn\'t involve actual GAMING doesn\'t matter in the game console world and the other saying a company is total shit for not including some new features that will become standard. Both are right and both are wrong, games should be what matters most when buying game consoles, but having extra features is not "bad" especially when it includes something like DVD playback. Not all of us are financially secure enough to buy 2 games systems, games for both sytems, a stand alone DVD player and movies for it.

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« Reply #132 on: July 18, 2002, 04:45:06 PM »
I never said it was bad to have extras. I\'m simply stating that these are gaming consoles.. not DVD players.. not PC\'s.. not Tivo\'s... they play games. That\'s what they\'re designed to do.. that\'s what they\'re sold to do... that\'s what they\'re bought to do. I don\'t mind that the PS2 and Xbox have DVD players. I don\'t mind that the Dreamcast has a WebBrowser. I don\'t mind that the Xbox has a Harddrive for ripping Mp3\'s (At this point anyhow).

And please.. not financially stable enough to own more than one console? I\'m sorry, but I don\'t buy that. These things aren\'t made of pure gold. They\'re not major purchases like Stereo equiptment, PC\'s, or HDTV\'s. That dosen\'t mean I expect people to go out and buy the best of the best when it\'s released.. because yes.. that does get expencive. But come on.. a console\'s lifespan is about 5 years. Tell me who other than ppl stuck on welfare  who can\'t afford roughly $600 - $700 to feed their habit over five years. (That\'s the price of two consoles plus peripherals, plus a good catalog of games)

The people who don\'t do that.. are the people who don\'t consider gaming a major hobby of theirs. They simply have better things to spend their money on. That\'s fine.. but if you\'re one of those people then don\'t come in here with only half-knowladge and half-experience and expect to be taken seriously when you\'re entire point is arguing a moot feature... at best.

Oh.. well I guess I forgot little kids. They usually don\'t have high paying jobs with with to buy consoles with. But guess what.. they ain\'t got not bills either. No rent, no grocerys, no insurance, no cable, no utilities.. so any money they do get from menial part-time jobs and their paper routes is basically totally theirs and usually tax free ta-boot.

As far as evolving: An ethernet card.. is evolving. Built in 56k.. is evolving. A Harddrive.. is evolving. Voice recognicion and communication... is evolving. And yes.. DVD reading (as a medium for software) .. is evolving. Evolving as it pertains to here means changing and upgrading the hardware/software to assimilate new technology and new ideas into the gameplay experience. What you\'re talking about is fundamentally changing the core purpose of what the machine is for. You\'re turning it away from games into something new. But the thing is.. we already have what you\'re advocating turning the console into. It\'s called a PC.
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« Reply #133 on: July 18, 2002, 05:26:20 PM »
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Tell me this then...how happy would you be if you bough a car that cost\'s almost the same as other cars and it didnt have A/C, cruise control, 2 air bags, ABS...etc etc... NOW if you paid the virtually the same price as another car that DOES have these features...well i think almost every perosn would think you an idi0t fo making such a purchase.. Same concept here buddie!

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     That was a stupid comparison Coke.....a car without that stuff isnt a car is a matress on wheels.....all this stuff you complain about goes for the PSX also. Stop being stupid and WAKE UP! Gamecube is for gaming not for DVDs and not for music. It has very good games im sorry yopu dont see that. But im glad most other people do. Think about the gaming buisiness without nintendo. Ill wait for a response.
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« Reply #134 on: July 18, 2002, 05:27:36 PM »
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Does Nintendo have any good exclusive games right now?



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