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« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2002, 08:29:49 PM »
Noob or not, he just got some insight hammered into him...

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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2002, 09:09:32 PM »
For the record, to us "oldies" (Ginko, SonyFan, Unicorn and maybe...just maybe Ajoh) you are all noobs..:D

Oh and Vapor - you\'re not quite right on that being the end of the argument. Panasonic\'s version of the Cube , dubbed \'The Q\' is only on sale in Japan and will only play Japanese games or Japanese DVD\'s, unless you m0d it ..and we wouldn\'t discuss that stuff around here, now would we ?
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« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2002, 10:03:06 PM »
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For the record, to us "oldies" (Ginko, SonyFan, Unicorn and maybe...just maybe Ajoh) you are all noobs..
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Hey Ajoh.. umm.. that\'s my job. You realise that right? Sooo umm yeah. STFU Noob. And welcome to the forums.
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« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2002, 10:42:38 PM »
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Oh and Vapor - you\'re not quite right on that being the end of the argument. Panasonic\'s version of the Cube , dubbed \'The Q\' is only on sale in Japan and will only play Japanese games or Japanese DVD\'s, unless you m0d it ..and we wouldn\'t discuss that stuff around here, now would we ?
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Move to Japan, its that easy. Sheesh, some people just aren\'t into Japanese chicks anymore....

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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2002, 10:44:37 AM »
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Move to Japan, its that easy.


Hmm...well now is plain obvious that who said this, is a prime example of what im talking about. (refer to topic)

NOW... lets go over the important points here:

*1)** Nintendo is brain washing
*2)** They try to put off SEVERE short coming as features..(HA!)
*3)** they are feeding off the intelectually handicaped by getting them to believe that they are getting somthing better when in fact they are getting somthing worse!
*4a)** Savings??...how about the price of the games? if they are so concerned with helping us save money how come the games are the same price? Like someone mentioned earlier the disks are created to stop piracy right?...so wheres the consumer savings? (same price as a DVD based game)
*4b)** Not to mention the actual size of the disk!  A DVD is a physically larger component; and if you compare the amount of actual materials needed to create a DVD in relation to a GC disk...well its obviously smaller right?...so wheres the saving?  
Yeah sure, on a single disk you\'d save like 10c or whatever... but multiply this by million (or how ever many million games they sell) and nintendo are making a pretty tidy profit at the expense of us! ...oh and they are doing this for us, the consumer! ..GIVE ME A BREAK!!!  (thanks for the saving brainwashers!!!)

THIS is sad to the point of hilarity!  Wake up nintendo fan boys!
PS2 and x-box are on the right path...  when will nintendo see the light??  (i aint holding my breath!)
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« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2002, 11:48:10 AM »
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Hmm...well now is plain obvious that who said this, is a prime example of what im talking about. (refer to topic)



That made little to no sense.

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« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2002, 12:44:41 PM »
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Originally posted by Coke


Hmm...well now is plain obvious that who said this, is a prime example of what im talking about. (refer to topic)

NOW... lets go over the important points here:

*1)** Nintendo is brain washing
*2)** They try to put off SEVERE short coming as features..(HA!)
*3)** they are feeding off the intelectually handicaped by getting them to believe that they are getting somthing better when in fact they are getting somthing worse!
*4a)** Savings??...how about the price of the games? if they are so concerned with helping us save money how come the games are the same price? Like someone mentioned earlier the disks are created to stop piracy right?...so wheres the consumer savings? (same price as a DVD based game)
*4b)** Not to mention the actual size of the disk!  A DVD is a physically larger component; and if you compare the amount of actual materials needed to create a DVD in relation to a GC disk...well its obviously smaller right?...so wheres the saving?  
Yeah sure, on a single disk you\'d save like 10c or whatever... but multiply this by million (or how ever many million games they sell) and nintendo are making a pretty tidy profit at the expense of us! ...oh and they are doing this for us, the consumer! ..GIVE ME A BREAK!!!  (thanks for the saving brainwashers!!!)

THIS is sad to the point of hilarity!  Wake up nintendo fan boys!
PS2 and x-box are on the right path...  when will nintendo see the light??  (i aint holding my breath!)


hehe, ignorance is funny.

First of all, no one in this topic, with the expection of maybe myself, could be considered a Nintendo fanboy.

As for your points:

1) How are they brainwashing?  You have yet to tell us directly.

2)That didn\'t even make sense.  Clarify what you\'re saying.

3)I own a Gamecube, are you saying that I\'m intellectually handicapped?  Infact, I own one, and don\'t own an X-Box or PS2.  But hey, at least I\'m intellectual enough to string together a decent post.  How exactly are they feeding off the "intellectually handicapped?

4a) The console is cheaper, because that is the main purchase you have to make.  It is easier to make smaller game purchases, or even rent games.  In the case of the console, it\'s cheaper due to fewer features.  The games don\'t have any less to them, and aren\'t cheaper to make, so why should they be cheaper?

4b)The size of the disc has nothing to do with the costs.  The costs are in developement.  A difference of 10 cents?  Ha.  It does cost 10 cents total to make either the DVDs or the minidiscs.  Why you think that they are making more of a profit it beyond me.  What are you saying they should do, lower game prices by 10 cents so that they even things out? :rolleyes:

And while we\'re on the topic of Japan, ask them which console is not on the right path.  I think the sales figures speak for themselves.
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« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2002, 01:45:16 PM »
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4b)The size of the disc has nothing to do with the costs.  The costs are in developement.  A difference of 10 cents?  Ha.  It does cost 10 cents total to make either the DVDs or the minidiscs.  Why you think that they are making more of a profit it beyond me.  What are you saying they should do, lower game prices by 10 cents so that they even things out? :rolleyes:


I think what he was saying is that the entire purpose of the miniDiscs was to prevent Piracy... So since the games cannot be burned/copied like Xbox or Playstation 2 then sales should be much higher and therefore they should be able to sell the games for less... Whereas for the moment Gamecube charges more for their games then either Playstation 2 or X-Box...
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« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2002, 02:24:01 PM »
PlagueBearer is 100% correct!!

Now can these questions be answered by any nintendo fan boys?

FACT: Mini disk was created to lessen the ability of software pirates to copy software.

FACT: Software pirates increase the cost of software to consumers.

FACT: There is ZERO savings being made EVEN though its virtually impossibe to copy the software.  

FACT: Not only are there ZERO savings being made by the consumer (aka nintendo fan boys), the games are MORE expensive than competitors!

FACT: While nintendo is coaxing you fan boys in with such frivilious statments, you happily go along and believe such blatent lies. Its obvoius you are being brainwashed into believing such rubbish!


Give me break, who ever said the console is the most expensive part of the purchasing a console system and playing games, bull-sheeeet!! Say you purchase 4 games, thats already more than the price of the system itself...LOL   PLEASE come up with a valid argument. (??)
And renting isnt a come back to those of us who want to have a home collction. (another downfall on nintendos part)

When will they learn?? ??? (thank god x-box and ps2 are here!!)

p.s  im not even going to get into the cost to manufacture the mini disk in ratio to profit! ...DVD is cheaper!!!
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« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2002, 03:17:59 PM »
I\'m not gonna comment on how lame and ignorant you really are (others will anyway). I\'d just like to mention that where I live gamecube games are cheaper than ps2 and xbox games.
gamecube is ~59,99euro
ps2 is ~67,49euro
and xbox is ~75euro
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« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2002, 03:30:45 PM »
Coke here is where your a retard.

Nintendo started the gaming biz\' and are still regardless of the present the indisputable champs of gaming. Sure the Gamecube hasn\'t sold as many units (Perhaps it could be its 10 month existence :rolleyes:), but it delivers high quality games. Even you must admit that in it\'s first year the Gamecube has better games than that of what PS2 had in its first year. Eternal Darkness, SSBM, Resident Evil, and Pikmin are a few titles that come to mind...games that i think our light years better than Timesplitters and SSX were. Your talking hardware, basically the most irrelevant part when it comes to good gaming. Its all about the games.

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« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2002, 04:49:38 PM »
Hey I am not agreeing with Coke 100 %. Nintendo is a great company. I have owned alot of Nintendo consoles and I love the in-house and 1st party games. I love the Mario series, Zelda series and all the other Nintendo only\'s.

I do not agree that because Nintendo is a good company that you can ignore their faults. Where are the savings from minidisc? All the Gamecube games are the same price as the other console\'s games at my local EB. No extras are passed off as it being a \'pure gaming\' console which is pretty cheeseball. But no I don\'t hate Nintendo and I am actually going to buy one when I can afford it and a few games.

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« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2002, 07:11:43 PM »
Coke seems to share something in common with our old friend Clowd...the inability to understand the meaning of the word "fact"

The fact is that preventing piracy has nothing to do with where the costs should be right now.  Nintendo and X-Box are both playing catchup to PS2, the more established console at this time.  Since there are more PS2s out there, that means, piracy or not, the PS2 games will sell more.  Until Nintendo can catch up with the number of consoles that Sony has sold, something that will likely never happen, there are no savings.  They will sell fewer of their games than Sony will, no matter how much piracy is out there.  Since the cost isn\'t in manufacturing, but rather in production, this means that the only company that should be lowering game prices, by your reasoning, is Sony.  Besides, people who copy games make up only a very small portion of the gaming population.

Also, did it ever occur to you that maybe the results the any boosted profits that could possibly exist are being passed onto the consumer?  Perhaps they are only providing for means to develope more and more impressive games in the future.  The profits that you think are there would only go back into future games, and thus get back to the consumer anyway.  That would make the console you decided to buy look better, and it would provide it with more worth while games.  I don\'t see how that would be a bad thing.
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« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2002, 09:22:00 PM »
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Even you must admit that in it\'s first year the Gamecube has better games than that of what PS2 had in its first year. Eternal Darkness, SSBM, Resident Evil, and Pikmin are a few titles that come to mind... Your talking hardware, basically the most irrelevant part when it comes to good gaming. Its all about the games.


Eternal Darkness, Pikmin, Resident Evil, Star Wars Rogue Squadron, Super Smash Brothers Melee... Those are good games without a doubt... Now continue... Oh... There are no more good games...

Now I\'m not trying to bash the Gamecube [I happen to own one] but I would like to see Nintendo correct this... Lack of games was the same problem that the N64 had... They should have solved that by now...
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« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2002, 10:11:46 PM »
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Eternal Darkness, Pikmin, Resident Evil, Star Wars Rogue Squadron, Super Smash Brothers Melee... Those are good games without a doubt... Now continue... Oh... There are no more good games...

Now I\'m not trying to bash the Gamecube [I happen to own one] but I would like to see Nintendo correct this... Lack of games was the same problem that the N64 had... They should have solved that by now...


THe very problem you are complaining about has fallen onto every console within the first year of its life span. The PS2 suffered the same drought with its first year, the Xbox is suffering it and even the DC suffered it (much lesser extent tho\'). ANd when you think of the games comin\' out before end of the year, it isn\'t near that bad....

Oh and to answer your question..

Eternal Darkness
Pikimin
Resident Evil : Rebirth
Resident Evil 0
Mario Sunshine
Sega Soccer Slam
Super Monkey Ball
Super Monkey Ball 2
Star War: RS2
SSBM
Luigi\'s Mansion
Bomberman Generation\'s
Star Fox Adventures
Metriod Prime

That\'s just a handfull of the games that will be out / are out before the GC reaches its first year. Now take in account Capcom\'s support for the GC, Square agreeing to develop for it, KOnami and other third parties and you can see that Nintendo has indeed worked with the developers to fix a lot of the problems that plagued the N64 ,the first and foremost being the cartridge format, which scared off third parties.

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No extras are passed off as it being a \'pure gaming\' console which is pretty cheeseball.\'pure gaming\' console


You would of paid less for it at launch than any other console. You will pay less for it still compared to the other consoles . That is one of the advantages of having a system that doesn\'t have a lot of unnessecary options.

On a side note: I think Panasonic should consider releasing \'The Q\' in other countries, besides Japan.

 

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