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Offline Chrono
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« Reply #45 on: July 19, 2002, 06:21:45 PM »
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Xbox has no future in Japan, but I do believe that the support it\'s garnered in the U.S. will carry it on...


So we can, in other words, look fowards to lots of more PC ports?
American Developers are mostly PC developers.. and since the xbox is so similar to a PC, thats what its been getting.. and thats what it will continue to get.

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« Reply #46 on: July 19, 2002, 07:11:47 PM »
No, Chrono...I wasn\'t hinting at that.

I was suggesting that since the U.S. is such a large part of the game industry that having success in this one territory will be enough reason to continue development.  Though not as a primary focus...

American developers are coming around...I believe Acclaim(Turok was made right here in Austin), Retro Studios (Also Austin based I believe), Silicon Knights, Bungie, etc. are talented and just the tip of the iceberg.

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« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2002, 07:40:30 PM »
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American developers are coming around...I believe Acclaim(Turok was made right here in Austin), Retro Studios (Also Austin based I believe), Silicon Knights, Bungie, etc. are talented and just the tip of the iceberg.


First of all, thanks for the mature reply :)
Second of all, you can have Akk-lame
Silicon Knights made one great game.. sadly it took then 5 great years.
Bungie made one great game, AKA Halo, but once again thats on the PC also.
so.. umm, like what am I expecting on the xbox.
1st party = MS trying to continue their PC series on the xbox
2nd party = Bungie.. which might make a good game every few years
3rd party = a collection of 3rd rate american developers, with a gem here and there.

I guess if you like PC style games, you will like the xbox.
Sadly, the PC itself provides a much broader selection of games, with more options such as a keyboard and mouse.

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« Reply #48 on: July 19, 2002, 07:41:50 PM »
hmmmmmmmm, mouse/kb combo


/me feels warm all over
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« Reply #49 on: July 19, 2002, 07:43:58 PM »
Also, sega in regards to the USA situation and not doing too hot in japan.

1st of all, it did ok in japan.. but not as well in the USA.
The xbox on the other hand has yet to outsell the 3do
2nd of all, Sega had Sega, while MS has virtually no system seller 1st party. Sega was able to make games that sold systems to americans, and MS is not doing that.

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« Reply #50 on: July 19, 2002, 07:45:58 PM »
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First of all, thanks for the mature reply


Why does that feel like an insult?:(

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Second of all, you can have Akk-lame
Silicon Knights made one great game.. sadly it took then 5 great years.
Bungie made one great game, AKA Halo, but once again thats on the PC also.
so.. umm, like what am I expecting on the xbox.
1st party = MS trying to continue their PC series on the xbox
2nd party = Bungie.. which might make a good game every few years
3rd party = a collection of 3rd rate american developers, with a gem here and there.


You missed my point...where were these developers last generation?  (That\'s just a few examples, and fyi, Turok was a pretty good game)

It use to be that all the triple A titles or anything worth playing came from Japan.  That looks to be changing as talent is popping up here in the U.S. too...

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« Reply #51 on: July 19, 2002, 07:49:20 PM »
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Sega was able to make games that sold systems to americans, and MS is not doing that.


Did Sega manage all this within the first 9 months?  I think MS is extremely focused on the U.S. market and their lineup shows that.

Doesn\'t want to make list...

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« Reply #52 on: July 19, 2002, 07:50:05 PM »
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Why does that feel like an insult?


Actually, I was being nice :)
that was meant as a compliment

When you see those titles, let me know. I\'m going to go back to playing the games that are out now, and that will come out this fall. And of that list, the xbox is not on it. If, by some chance I could find 3 titles worth owning on the xbox, I might buy one.. but its not happening. Its been how many months, and only one AAA title?!? come on now.. the year mark is approaching!
People said the ps2 had a draught after launch, however thats nothing compared to the xbox post launch draught. Where the ps2 had alot of great titles its 2nd season, the xbox has just a few exclusive titles worth owning..

Perhaps i\'m being too hard on the xbox, but after all the hype ms created. Should I be?

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« Reply #53 on: July 19, 2002, 07:52:15 PM »
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Did Sega manage all this within the first 9 months? I think MS is extremely focused on the U.S. market and their lineup shows that.


No, but was sega up against 2 companies with great footholds. Nintendo is bringing out the guns, what does MS have to counter?
we already know what sony has this fall.. once again, what does MS have to counter?

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Doesn\'t want to make list...

Make it, and don\'t include PC titles or ports, otherwise you will proove my point for me

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« Reply #54 on: July 19, 2002, 07:59:06 PM »
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Its been how many months, and only one AAA title?!? come on now.. the year mark is approaching!


You have to keep in mind, and I remind myself, that this is MS\' first venture into videogames.  I\'ll admit right up front that they were ill-prepared...however it looks to be changing.

Personally, I\'m looking forward to Brute Force, Unreal Championship, Whacked, Sega GT 2002, Blinx, Unseen, Crimson Skies, Fable, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Strident...

I know it remains to be seen whether the above turn out to be worth owning, but it looks like MS is making an effort whether it be first party or securing rights for exclusive third party titles.

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« Reply #55 on: July 19, 2002, 08:00:50 PM »
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that this is MS\' first venture into videogames


no, theyve been dumping thier crap titles on the PC market for years
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« Reply #56 on: July 19, 2002, 08:05:58 PM »
well Ginko, I just hope you have a secondary plan.
Your tone has thus far changed over recent months, perhaps your not as single minded as I once thought.

After getting a gamecube I pretty much quit caring as to what happens.. tonight I decided to come on and post.. not sure why yet, its just one of those nights I guess :)

Frankly, with a list like this i\'m not sure why I would need a xbox even if it had some titles worth owning.

Chrono\'s Game list for this fall
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8/13  Madden 2k3
8/26  Super Mario Sunshine
8/26  Super Monkey Ball 2
8/27  SOCOM
8/27  Network Adaptor
9/15  Grandia X
9/15  Wild Arms 3
9/15  Sly Cooper
9/23  Star Fox Adventures
9/24  TimeSplitters 2
10/1  Resident Evil 2
10/1  Legend of Legaia
10/14 Kingdom Hearts
10/21 Mario Party 4
10/21 Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
10/29 Jet X20 PS2
11/05 Resident Evil 0
11/05 Tony Hawk\'s Pro Skater 4
11/11 Wario World GC
11/12 Lara Croft Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness
11/15 Suikoden 3
11/15 Ratchet and Clank
11/18 Metriod Prime
12/01 Resident Evil 3
12/?  Star Ocean 3
12/14 The Getaway
12/15 Dark Cloud 2

Unknown Dates/Undecided
Auto Modellista
ATV Offroad Fury 2
Shinobi
Zone of Enders 2
11/05 Spyro
11/15 DDR Max


Its going to be difficult to narrow that list down..

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« Reply #57 on: July 19, 2002, 08:07:33 PM »
Consoles, we\'re talking consoles!!!

They haven\'t owned up to the hype, but then who has?

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Nintendo is bringing out the guns, what does MS have to counter?


They\'re only considered "big guns" because they\'re are well established franchises.  MS doesn\'t have that...

I ask you, honestly what do you expect MS to do that haven\'t done already?

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« Reply #58 on: July 19, 2002, 08:14:33 PM »
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well Ginko, I just hope you have a secondary plan.
Your tone has thus far changed over recent months, perhaps your not as single minded as I once thought.


I don\'t need a secondary plan...I have an Xbox, PS2, and soon to be GC.  

My list consist of a few titles spread across each system...that\'s besides the point.

oh, and I may have been a bit biased but I\'ve always approached arguements from a subjective pov.  Alot of people here ignore it though...bet you wouldn\'t believe me if I told you I\'m considered a PS2 fanboy at TXB forums would you?;)

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« Reply #59 on: July 19, 2002, 08:16:19 PM »
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bet you wouldn\'t believe me if I told you I\'m considered a PS2 fanboy at TXB forums would you?


Actually I would belive you,
I bet they think the forum graphics are ps2 fanboys

 

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