Why does everybody hate Hideo Kojima????

No, it never ruins the game.

i could list several games ruined by story

Again, I play games for gameplay, not for story.  Story cannot ruin a game, but it seems I am an odd sort around here.

story is an integral part of gameplay

you cant seperate them

I agree with mm... a game (for me) isn\'t just a game. Story, music, gameplay.. they all play a big role and at the end make the game to what it actually is. Infact, I doubt I\'d play the FF series if it weren\'t for the great story behind it. Same goes for MGS. Sure, you could still play it even if they weren\'t any story behind it, but really - would the motivation be there?

I still had fun with MGS2 even though its story is lacking and thats where I formed my opinion that the story can never kill a game.

I think I should agree with mm and seven.Thats the reason why FF7 stands out from the rest FFs.

Again, I play games for gameplay, not for story. Story cannot ruin a game, but it seems I am an odd sort around here.

BTW:Hey Watchdog are most of the games u own violent ones?Like KILL SMASH DESTROY ELIMINATE DEMOLISH etc etc?Because these are the only games that dont give much attention to story.Or atleast people dont give attention to their story.(They give to other things that make them a success like KILL SMASH DESTROY ELIMINATE DEMOLISH) .This kind of games are all very similar usually.

Watchdog could play a game like MGS2, which isn\'t a kill smash destroy.  He would just play it for the awesome gameplay.

[Bobs_Hardware]

I\'ve said it before, and I\'ll say it again.  MGS2 has the best gameplay of any game this generation, it\'s just that it never lets you use any of it.  

Which is why I\'m hopeful for Splinter Cell.  

doesnt know why he brought this up..

No, I don\'t like games like that, Unicron (I hate GTA3).

I don\'t want the removal of story from games, but the story isn\'t what keeps me interested.  I don\'t care what happens next (mostly because it\'s very easy to predict), I care about what I do next.

VGs are for playing.

Originally posted by Watchdog

VGs are for playing.

Movies used to be for entertainment only too u know.As technology progresses VGs might not be only just for playing in the future(Ahm I dont mean for guiding missiles,or tank and war plane simulations:D).