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« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2002, 07:17:45 PM »
Morrowind isn\'t crap, it just aint stellar.

It really depends on your gaming genre, if your not big on RPGs this is not your game.  Especially a crappy port that doesn\'t allow mods.  Ouch, big time.
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« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2002, 07:25:07 PM »
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Morrowind isn\'t crap, it just aint stellar.

It really depends on your gaming genre, if your not big on RPGs this is not your game.  Especially a crappy port that doesn\'t allow mods.  Ouch, big time.


You won\'t be believe this but I\'m not an RPG genre player at all.  Zero!  I hate it!  But Morrowind was not a turn base type and I love it.  Yes, No mods for Xbox Morrowind is a big ouch but they made add-ons for DOA3 on a demo disc so you never know if Xbox Morrowind might have it.  Wait I remeber a while back that a preview from the deveopers said there was no plans for an add-on yet.
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« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2002, 07:26:49 PM »
*yawn*

ill stick with my million+ titles, thanks

lemme know when hollowind hits 250 thousand, well throw a party
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« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2002, 07:34:32 PM »
Hollowind?  :laughing:  


I just thought of somthing.  Xbox won\'t have any RPGs untill Project Ego comes out.  I wonder how it will stand up with Morrowind.  Of couse not graphically but gameplay wise.
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« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2002, 07:49:38 PM »
yes hollowind, as in lacking a core
ie.  substance

project ego?  the molyneux game?

lol

he did wonders with the buggy A.I. test, i mean black & white

he needs to climb back in the closet with john romero
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« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2002, 09:13:59 PM »
pstwo, how in the f*ck can you compair Shenmue II to Morrowwind? Are you stoned? They\'re two completely different genres. Do you even know what an RPG is??

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While Shenmue focuses on a good story and classic RPG gameplay - Hurricane


Classic RPG gameplay? Just where is that classic RPG gameplay may I ask? I mean.. I just got to disk 2 on Shenmue I, (playing through for the 4th time) and I\'ve yet to see it in either game in the series. The only RPG element to it is the ability to improve your martial arts moves. Where are your lvls? Where are your stats? HP? What magic or special abilities can you learn? Can you name your own character? Speaking of characters.. where\'s your Party?? I might even kinda sorta understand about where you\'re comming from is maybe you had to improve your skills to overcome obsticals in the game. As it is now, you can play through the entire game and never practice your skills once and still have no problem beating the game.

To the contrary of what people have heard, Shenmue isn\'t an RPG. It has a few light RPG elements.. but they\'re not present enough to define the Genre. You could call it F.R.E.E, but that\'s just a hype buzzword.. not a real genre. What defines a F.R.E.E game? Think about that.. and then compaire those elements to other genres and I think you\'ll find one genre that it fits nearly identically.

As much as some people might like to laud Shenmue as revolutionary, there\'s really nothing in it that hasn\'t been done before.. mostly in one game I can think of in particular from 1989. The similarities are striking actually. Yet even that game has far ~FAR~ more RPG elements than Shenmue does. Guess what tho? It\'s not an RPG.. well.. it\'s not wholly considered an RPG at any rate.

Sheesh.. kids today. You think anything with a huge and dynamic storyline is an RPG. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2002, 09:23:08 PM »
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« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2002, 10:03:37 PM »
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pstwo, how in the f*ck can you compair Shenmue II to Morrowwind? Are you stoned? They\'re two completely different genres. Do you even know what an RPG is??


First off, your a mod now and that language must go. (F*ck)  Respect the members as well.  Go read your bible about being a mod. LOL!  

Ok now if I\'m not mistaken RPGs are RPGs.  I could play an Apple RPG game and it would be the same genres class as a Orange RPG game.  RPG GENRES!  If one game has more elements that the other it makes no differents. It\'s still an RPG.  :o
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« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2002, 10:35:50 PM »
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« Reply #39 on: September 01, 2002, 01:05:42 AM »
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i have

i played the PC version

and after walking around for 40 minutes except doing NOTIHNG but talking to pissed off people, that was that

 i refuse to play the raped xbox port


Raped X box version with NO plugins to make the game intresting


Take for example the plugin i am playing

the Dread Knights

it add\'s ORC Death knights that can summon Undead and have magic armour there is 9 of them in total,

each HIDDEN through out Morrowind

it a VERY BIG Quest

or there is the Giant\'s Plug in which add\'s Giants ,Sea Devils , Pack\'s of Nix Hounds etc.

and finaly there is the superb Moonspawn Plugin that add\'s a Dwarfen Floating Fortress to explore.


PC Version FAR >>>> to the X flops version !
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« Reply #40 on: September 01, 2002, 02:17:50 AM »
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Raped X box version with NO plugins to make the game intresting


Take for example the plugin i am playing

the Dread Knights

it add\'s ORC Death knights that can summon Undead and have magic armour there is 9 of them in total,

each HIDDEN through out Morrowind




Wow!  A Dread Knight?  So it\'s a special ORC with a Summon Undead spell?   What kind of enchanted Magic does the armour has?  I could enchant any weapon or armour with my enchanter of couse, my enchantment skills are to low but my destruction skills are now at 60.  What house did you join?  I join the Telvanni and I build my Stronghold at it\'s final stage.  Looks like a plant that grown huge.  I love it.  I even have robots gaurds outside my stronghold. I put all my armours, weapons, book, ingredients etc inside.  It was hard work doing the stronghold quests and to up my skills to a level needed.  My level is at 29 now.  

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it a VERY BIG Quest


So tell some of the quests you are doing now.

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or there is the Giant\'s Plug in which add\'s Giants ,Sea Devils , Pack\'s of Nix Hounds etc.


What Giants sea devils?  Never heard or seen it but giant Nix hounds? WOW!  I seen the Hounds, it looks like dogs but weird.

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and finaly there is the superb Moonspawn Plugin that add\'s a Dwarfen Floating Fortress to explore.


Sounds cool.  There is one floating island next to the Vivec complex on the right side.  I didn\'t go there yet but I will. I made some constant effects items like 8 pt health tower glass sheild, 10 pt levate. I made some enchant items with spells like my 100ft telekinisis, 100 pt health, cure common diseases and some other ones.  I also make my own potions now. Save money!  I just look for plants and other ingredient to make my great potions.

Morrowind has to be the best game ever made.
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« Reply #41 on: September 01, 2002, 03:50:40 AM »
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Morrowind has to be the best game ever made.


Far from the truth, even for the PC version.  But in any case, a good "make your own" RPG.
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« Reply #42 on: September 01, 2002, 04:23:24 AM »
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First off, your a mod now and that language must go. (F*ck) Respect the members as well. Go read your bible about being a mod. LOL! - pstwo


If that language must go, then mm can tell me himself. Mod or not, I\'m still the same ole\' poster I always was and I\'ll be damned if I change jus because of a title and a few extra options. If I wasn\'t an apropriate choice as mod, I never would have been made one in the first place. After two years on these forums, I\'m sure mm knows what I\'m like by now.

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Ok now if I\'m not mistaken RPGs are RPGs. I could play an Apple RPG game and it would be the same genres class as a Orange RPG game. RPG GENRES! If one game has more elements that the other it makes no differents. It\'s still an RPG. - pstwo


Do you have idea what you\'re talking about? Ok.. so jus because I can jump a crate in MGS2 does that make it a platformer? Jus because I solve a simple puzzle in Mario64 does that make it an Adventure game? Do you even know what a genre is and what defines it? I mean really.. are you even putting effort into these posts are you purposly TRYING to look like an idiot for us all to laugh at?

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« Reply #43 on: September 01, 2002, 05:00:37 AM »
pstwo, remember what forum yer in

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Please leave yer sensitive feelings in console discussion.


yer xbox devotion sickens me anymore

morrowind is a mediocre game at best

the best game ever?  you have some SERIOUS issues and need to stop hanging out with rastalant.  

youve turned into a "friendly" troll.  one that walked thru the side entrance with a smile and bearing gifts, yet having a dark alter purpose
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« Reply #44 on: September 01, 2002, 06:19:37 AM »
I for one am extremely pissed off.

However, this guy at my local EB (who surprised me by knowing a LOT about gaming) has told me how much he loved Shenmue 1 and 2 for his DC.  Perhaps he can give me the heads up as to where near by I could buy one.  Or maybe I could get his.

I should have bought one when I had the chance :(:(:(

 

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