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Offline luckee
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« on: September 15, 2002, 02:16:35 AM »
Officer Mistakenly Shoots Man
Police Officer Thought He Was Using Stun Gun When He Shot Man

The Associated Press

ROCHESTER, Minn. Sept. 13 — A police officer who thought he was using a stun gun to subdue a suspect mistakenly fired a bullet into the man\'s back, investigators said Friday.

The victim, Christofar Atak, was listed in fair condition.

An investigation into the Sept. 2 shooting found that Greg Siem thought he was holding a stun gun, Police Chief Roger Peterson.

The stun guns used by Rochester police look like handguns. They use an electric shock to temporarily incapacitate a person.

Atak, a refugee from civil war in Sudan, was drunk and acting violently at the time, police said.

"This family moved to get away from violence and they find themselves right back in it," said Atak\'s lawyer, William L. French.

The police chief said he spoke Thursday with Atak to apologize and explain the findings of the investigation.

Peterson said that Siem and a second officer who had both been on leave since the shooting can return to work.

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20020913_1291.html

A mistake my ass...
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2002, 04:45:30 AM »
For every "Bad" cop. There is ten good ones.
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2002, 04:50:53 AM »
I don\'t see why it couldn\'t be an accident?
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2002, 05:08:23 AM »
I don\'t either.
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2002, 05:20:43 AM »
After seeing some of the standard issue stun guns, I really don\'t see how he could have made the mistake. Plus most stunguns dont have safteys like the officers sidearm does.

Even if I could even imagine it to be one, how in the hell did he become cop and pass the exam if he is that stupid?

I hope this guy gets fired, there is no room for "mistakes" of this nature.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2002, 05:43:25 AM by luckee »
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2002, 05:21:09 AM »
shit happens, make up and move on.
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2002, 06:15:54 AM »
lol, luckee

nice try

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Atak, a refugee from civil war in Sudan, was drunk and acting violently at the time,


i wonder how this entire thing could have been avoided?
what did i say in the other thread about drawing attention to yerself?
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2002, 06:18:04 AM »
Nice try at what? Do you have some sort of point?
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2002, 06:28:00 AM »
The cops had to use reasonable force I guess if he was acting violently. They usually give someone plenty of opportunity to surrender before they even consider shooting anyway.
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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2002, 06:31:32 AM »
Yea, the good ones. I would have completely agreed if the cop actually used his baton..pepper spray, or the stun gun, but IMO he opted to shoot someone in the back.
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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2002, 06:52:31 AM »
yer point was to make cops look bad since you hate em so much

the guy was foriegn, drunk, and acting violently

the cop reached and grabbed the wrong weapon, shit happens

the guy lived, and now he\'ll think twice before getting drunk and acting violently again in america

oh, and i hate everyone who works at macdonalds cause some chick forgot my fries last friday afternoon in the drivethru and i didnt have time to go back
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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2002, 06:59:42 AM »
Thats right, I sure was making the bad cops look worse. Somebody has to do what they can if anything is going to change.

I dont dispute the guy was drunk and violent..thats very easy to believe. Guess what would happen to you or I if were to  "accidently" shoot a person in the back that was getting violent with us.

I just cant buy it was an accident. Cops KNOW where their weapons are..at least they should. Cops KNOW what is a real gun and what is a stungun...least they should. Like I said before.."accidents" of this nature are simply unacceptable.
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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2002, 08:23:17 AM »
the cop was probably scared for his safety, and grabbed what he thought was the stun gun

accidents happen

like everyone but you says, good cops completely outnumber bad cops
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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2002, 08:30:57 AM »
Sounds like Mr. Christofar Atak is going to learn all about the american dream through a healthy lawsuit against the police department, and possibly the manufacturer of the stun gun.  Oh yeah.  :rolleyes:  Of course the stun gun wasn\'t actually used in the shooting, so there\'s probably no legal basis for involving them.
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2002, 08:36:16 AM »
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accidents happen

like everyone but you says, good cops completely outnumber bad cops


yup, they do..and if this was truely an accident, does it change the fact the the officer shouldnt be fired? There is no room for accidents such as this.

when did I say that? Please do tell.

Core..in this case..I actually support a lawsuit..not agaisnt the dept. but the officer in question.
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