You may want to ignore Vapor\'s viewpoint, as I\'ve yet to see him say a fighting game is good - yet he still insisits on givin\' his two cents on them, even though it appears its a genre that he isn\'t quite fond of. Eh, Vapor?
It would be like me rating a football game and posting my review. Obviously, my viewpoint is goin\' to be that the game sucks, because I can\'t stand football and I don\'t have the foggiest clue as to what is goin\' on in the game. Therefor, the game sucks. Yes, it\'s my biased opinion, just like your viewpoint on VF4 and T4 is a biased opinion against fighting games.
Though I must comment. Vapor, if you was just "mashing buttons over and over" and winning , than you obviously had it on easy, because even on the normal setting the CPU would of beat you. My advice, take the difficulity up, try those tactics, lose and then decide to learn the tactics and depth of any given game, before you judge it for not being deep enough.
I do agree on Tekken Force though. It was a lame mini-game that needed quite abit of work. Not what Namco was hopin\' for, obviously.
Honestly though, Tekken 4 bites.The new characters look like someone from Tecmo\'s \'Team Ninja\' went over to Namco and designed them for T4. The endings was a complete dissapointment when you compare them to previous Tekken endings (tho\' the intro was awesome).
As for this complete argument about VF4 and T4 depth, well.. Iron nailed this one. Super Smash Bro\'s: Melee an DOA3 both outsold VF4 and T4, so depth doesn\'t matter to casual gamers and the fact is, depth just isn\'t craved in fighting games anymore. For the most part, the arcades are dead and the quest to be the best is dead also (\'cept in some parts of the country and over in Japan , where they are keeping the spirit alive.) .
The way I look at it is like this... VF4 does have more depth, maybe too much for some people. It requires an inmmense amount of time to just learn one character properly. And if you don\'t have a friend with the same amount of dedication, than multiplayer isn\'t fun, because it\'s an un-even amount of skill. Where as T4 has depth , though not as deep as VF4, it still has the reward for the player who wants to better themselves. While at the same time, it has a easier learning curve allowing for good VS matches and allows people to get into the game more. It\'s all what you want. I personally prefer VF4, but I also apperciate earlier Tekken\'s (I hate the new walls in T4!).
And why is it every Tekken threads turns into people boasting how great they are? THX nailed this one also. If you don\'t have any touranment wins under your belt, than you probably aren\'t to good. And even if you are - do you really need to brag? I understand the need for competetion and how it drives the ego, but I don\'t understand the point of it , when there is no way to back one\'s comments up. Someone clue me in? And honestly, do you believe you\'re that good? I mean, I grew up on Capcom fighters and have played them since I SSF2, yet I know I couldn\'t take on a hardcore SF player, therefor I see no need to talk trash and brag on myself.
The next time you guy\'s go to talk trash about how you was "banned" from such and such game or how you can "cain " someone\'s arse, I suggest you go download some video\'s of people with actual skill and who are not afraid to back it up and actually want to prove themselves, not talk trash to faceless people on a message board.
