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Ok, Noahs Ark could not exist.
« Reply #60 on: September 18, 2002, 05:30:48 PM »
it is very true..if that is the case..he isnt ready to do so.
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« Reply #61 on: September 18, 2002, 06:45:30 PM »
Christ, I hate to comming to threads like these late. I didn\'t even read most of it. My idea is that Noah\'s Ark was real.. but it didn\'t take place like how the bible tells it. Simply, Noah did save many of the Animals in the "Known" world at that time. Really Bossie, you\'re theory doesn\'t even take into account the years upon YEARS of work it would take to gather up all those animals from all over the world... in which time the animals he would have rounded up first would have probably died of old age, disease, or preditors.

At the time the story was written the known world was rather small. Most people were still nomads or confined to their own little towns. Now, a massive flood in that area has been theorised to happen durring Noah\'s time because of silt layers they\'ve found when doing soil analysis. It was slightly larger in scale than some of the more recent floods we\'ve had in the US in the south. Noah could very well have contructed a huge ship and gathered up a few hundred species of animals at most.. not including insects, birds, fish, and most plants. It was most certainly not a world encomasing event.. hell we can prove that by looking at the ecology and societyies of other human civilizations in Austrailia, China, Russia, Europe, and the Americas from around the time Noah was thought to have lived.

I wish I had a link.. I\'m jus recalling this all from a Discovery channel special I\'d seen. Maybe it was History channel.. not sure. I\'ll look it up if anyone want to discuss it further but it\'s not worth it right now.

As for "God" and weither he exists. I believe he does. I believe in science also. People have been searching for "God" since mankind began pretty much.. and yet we still don\'t have any definitive proof of him or even a clear image of who/what he is and what his/it\'s plan for us all is. I think he\'s out there far beyond the recognision of our sciences.. waiting.. pulling the strings that makes the universe work. Maybe "he" is a property of the universe? Another force like gravity? There\'s so many unanswered questions, that you jus have to take it on faith for now. Yet science is making real progress in our lives, despite it\'s shortcommings. Neanderthal Man lived for 250,000 years and the most he ever made was simple spears and rock tools. Our history spans roughly 80,000 years and we\'ve walked on the moon, seen to the edge of existance, dissected our own genetic code, and created machines capable of doing more calculations in a fraction of a second than a man could do in his lifetime. While me may jus be manipulating the same tools God used to create and maintain the universe, we\'re still doing some increadible things for a species so young.

I think there\'s plenty of room for both God and Science in our world. You jus have to admit that Science isn\'t foolproof.. and God isn\'t something tangable or measurable. He\'s not the "wise old man" we see depicted.. he\'s something so far beyond our science and imagination that right now.. trying to put a face and purpose to him is futile.
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« Reply #62 on: September 18, 2002, 07:40:12 PM »
I just noticed this thread now......the only post i read was bossiemans first post and thats all.....

I can tell you right now that i never have to ponder or think or worry about these things becuase God does not exist...






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« Reply #63 on: September 18, 2002, 07:42:54 PM »
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« Reply #64 on: September 18, 2002, 07:47:16 PM »
If god does exist 75% of this forum is screwed :bounce:

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« Reply #65 on: September 18, 2002, 07:57:34 PM »
/me rapes vivi for pointing out my blasphemy

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« Reply #66 on: September 18, 2002, 08:15:49 PM »
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ever hear of something called faith?


It\'s offen refuted by something called common sense.

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« Reply #67 on: September 18, 2002, 08:19:52 PM »
But they wen\'t in 2 by 2, how could you not beleave, 2 by 2.
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« Reply #68 on: September 19, 2002, 01:58:55 AM »
The bible is a book of stories by a few people who did lots of drugs.  Heck, everyone did drugs then.  

Yes, there probably was a lot of rain. Yes, a dude probably built a boat.

The dude probably put all his goats and shit on the boat.  Then some dude saw him floating by with his animals on it.

This dude was tripping on some sweet acid and was like, "Dude, he\'s got like so many animals on that boat..  whoa...."
That got passed down to another dude.

That got passed to another dude.

Then by the time it got to the burner who wrote the story down it was that this guy had a huge arc and had 2 of everything.

Thank god the arc wasn\'t travelling in the red sea when hercules parted it. Or whoever it was.
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« Reply #69 on: September 19, 2002, 04:43:14 AM »
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science only leads to a dark, lonely path where are religion leads to a bright one


But of course.. Religion is only responsible for the horrible witch burnings in the 1600-1700 century where they burned women alive, or tied their hands together to see if they could float.

Or killing people who tried to prove the earth was round, not flat like the church said.

Or the holy crusades where the holy knights killed almost all the people in Jerusalem.

Or going against authority (aka God.. authority = god back then) and being killed.

Or, or or..

Science contributed to a technological boom in Europe. Scientists started exploring the world and the universe. If we still would have been religious freaks we would still be in the dark ages.

Edit: Maybe Columbus would not have found (well, actually he was second.. Leif Eriksson was first ;)) America because they were so afraid of sailing off the edge of the earth.
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« Reply #70 on: September 19, 2002, 04:57:04 AM »
yer talking about extremists hundreds of years ago, AND you are confusing religion with church

church is an establishment.  it is a business.  which is why i dont participate.  it is not a sin to not go to church.  i feel all my god asks for is recognition and reverence.  is it really that cool to not believe in god?  seriously.  

you do not want to mention the attrocities that science has created, do you?

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« Reply #71 on: September 19, 2002, 05:12:18 AM »
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I made one great mistake in my life... when I signed the letter to President Roosevelt recommending that atom bombs be made


Well, It would not matter what he would have said, Roosevelt would have done it anyway.

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« Reply #72 on: September 19, 2002, 05:21:53 AM »
regardless

one of his greatest achievements became the worlds MOST destructive force ever known
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« Reply #73 on: September 19, 2002, 07:17:16 AM »
The thing about science.... yes, it can\'t explain everything right now. Does that mean it can\'t eventually? No.

Just think of how far science has come in 200 years. Who\'s to say what is known by scientists in 2202? Remember that right now isn\'t an absolute. And personally I don\'t feel like \'explaining\' things I don\'t know about, by using the universal answer: "It\'s God\'s doing." I\'d rather just accept the fact that I can\'t explain it. Someday we probably can.
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« Reply #74 on: September 19, 2002, 07:22:31 AM »
but why explain it?

one of these days, a scientist somewhere is gonna go one step past the manmade ebola virus, or the manmade AIDS virus, and we wont be able to contain it

think about the atom bomb we mentioned earlier.  there was fear among everyone that the chain reaction might no stop and the entire planet might be consumed.  did this stop them from testing it?  hell no!  they pressed right ahead to see what would happen.  luckily, it didnt, and only a few square mile radius of area was eradicated.

dont get me wrong, science (just like religion) has two sides

without science, we would have no chocolate ice cream, and i sure do love chocolate ice cream

hmmmmmm...
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