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Offline ben_high
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The Serial Sniper left a "calling card".
« Reply #75 on: October 12, 2002, 08:05:48 PM »
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They only way it could not be the work of terrorist(s) is if it\'s a lone, disturbed serial killer.  That\'s still possible, but not if there were two people in the van.  Insane serial killers do not work together.  Only terrorists do.


Huh?Ever heard of Leonard Lake and Charles Ng,Leopold and loeb,Kenneth Bianchi and Angelo Buono also known as The Hillside Stranglers,Ray and Faye Copeland,Gwendolyn Gail Graham and Catherine Wood.The Columbine killers,although they could be considered more like spree killers.There are even more examples although I can\'t remember them all right now.
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« Reply #76 on: October 12, 2002, 08:22:32 PM »
There have been quite a few serial killers who do not work alone. What about Paul Bernado and his wife (whose name slips me)?  Henry and Otis? Not to mention the one\'s listed by Ben (minus the Columbine killers, who are \'spree killers\', due to the fact the murders was commited all at once).

This whole terrorisim paranoia is amusing if anything. The very fact that one (or two) serial killers can get everyone up in a bunch and make them think it is an act of terrosim , all because of 9-11. It is almost like there has never been serial killers before or spree killers.  I have to agree with Boz, the word terrosim or terrosist is thrown around so much now\'a\'days. The least little thing is automatically assumed to be a terrorist attack against us. I think we all need to get a grip on reality and the basic facts that people, that are not "terrorist" per say are also indeed f**ked in the head and get off on things like this. It\'s always been like that, yes , even before 9-11...

I honestly and strongly suggest all of you go read at
http://www.crimelibrary.com

There is plenty of stories, information and new\'s updates there. If you don\'t think two "insane serial killers" can "work together" than you should check out the serial killers section and read about all the serial killers who have had partners in crime.

And by the way, Billy, you\'re wrong. He does more than that as a routine. He also does his killings near local busy interstates, which provide an easy way to get into crowded traffic, slip off into an exit and a lot of other things. You are right about one thing, the Unabomber\'s bombs was meant for specfic people, this guy has seemily random victums - and they are all inpersonal, meaning none of these killings are out of the heat of anger , sexual desire or what not. He isn\'t killing in a personal manner (mulitation, stranglation, etc) and he is obviously not raping or attempting to rape his victums . Therefor, you can probably establish that his killings are more of a game, a cat and mouse game to have fun with the cops and he may have some hidden statement.

As for this whole tartot card. The police have suggested a couple times that it could of been pulled by a prankster and I personally believe it was. He would of had to get to close. Not to mention he has had no other forms of communcation (that we , the public know about).  He seems to like to stay in the shadows and go by without being noticed. Communcating is doin\' the complete oppisote of that.
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« Reply #77 on: October 12, 2002, 08:27:19 PM »
Wasn\'t the woman that killed with Paul Bernardo named Karla Homolka(sp.?).The one that was executed in Texas a few years ago.

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« Reply #78 on: October 12, 2002, 08:31:16 PM »
Paul and his wife was in Canada, so that couldn\'t of been her. Infact, she cut a deal and is up to be paroled in the near future, if I remember correctly. You did get her name right though.


There is a picture of the two "love birds".

Here is a quote from an update on the case.

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Canadian law requires that when the Correctional Service of Canada feels a case requires detention beyond the two-thirds point, it be referred to the board at least six months before the statutory release date.  The law also requires that the board review the case every year after the statutory release date until the expiry of her sentence, which is in July 2005.

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« Reply #79 on: October 12, 2002, 08:52:54 PM »
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this Sniper has no particular motive.

Sure he does. We just don\'t know what it is yet. :(

The only possibilty where he doesn\'t have a motive is he would have to be mentally insane. I don\'t think that\'s the case with this guy. He seems to perfectly know what he\'s doing and has been doing a great job at it so far. Something/someone had to occur to lead to this.

I personally think he\'s an attention addict who has always been one and has never received enough attention to satisfy him.

BTW, great post LIC.
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« Reply #80 on: October 12, 2002, 08:56:34 PM »
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You seem to enjoy having the last word, even when it doesn\'t contribute anything to the discussion.


Ok, think what you want.  But the fact that everyone is a terrorist now doesn\'t make to much sense.  And by the true definition of a terrorist he could be called one even if he is acting alone.  But that doesn\'t mean we should call him so.

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« Reply #81 on: October 12, 2002, 08:57:10 PM »
Ironic thing about this is, the sniper could stop and there would still be not enough evidence to catch him. And to add morbidity to all this, the more lives he takes, the closer we are to catching him.l :(
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« Reply #82 on: October 12, 2002, 09:33:51 PM »
The chances of him stopping are almost none though. The general set pattern is after they get a taste for playing \'God\', than it is hard to go back. It is giving a lot of control up and a lot of attenion. The only way he will stop is if he dies / gets sick / arrested for another crime and serves time in jail and isn\'t able .

The odd thing is, most serial killers towards the end of their spree - when they are "wanting to stop" start to go on the spree, like he is. The constant killing in such a short period of time. Doin\' this they get sloppy. Him, on the other hand, he is doin\' them fast as he can and it seems as though he is only honing his skill more and more.

The only downfall to his plan I can see, is the fact he is getting braver. His last victum was near a police officer. That is bravery and showing off - something that may eventually cost him.

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« Reply #83 on: October 12, 2002, 10:15:09 PM »
Now I remember which woman you are talking about LIC,they even kiled her little sister.And the prosecuters cut a deal with her for immunity before they even relised how much involvment she had,now she\'s gonna get off with a slap on the wrist.

Anyhoo,I really think this guy\'s gonna get cought soon.Unfortunantly it probably will be just after another shooting.
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« Reply #84 on: October 12, 2002, 11:04:37 PM »
It might bea  woman.

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« Reply #85 on: October 12, 2002, 11:05:42 PM »
Everybody realizes that but its more common place to say he or that guy when describing a person.

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« Reply #86 on: October 13, 2002, 12:31:30 AM »
I think most of you missed the point when Coredweller said he would/could be a terrorist. Some people think terrorist = Arab who runs around with an AK-47. And that\'s because of 9/11. Coredweller was just pointing out that people of all ages and cultures is by definition a terrorist, if certain criteria are met. It was that way before 9/11 too.
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« Reply #87 on: October 13, 2002, 05:05:49 AM »
I think this guy\'s pleasure is the fact the he\'s been getting away with it.
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« Reply #88 on: October 13, 2002, 09:48:16 AM »
Well if you want to go by the exact definition of a terrorist he is one already.  All it takes is one person causing intimidation.

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« Reply #89 on: October 13, 2002, 11:52:28 AM »
ter·ror·ist   Pronunciation Key  (trr-st)
n.
One that engages in acts or an act of terrorism.


ter·ror·ism  Pronunciation Key  (tr-rzm)
n.
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

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