What do u like to see in the PS3?

More jaggies

Originally posted by Paul


Obviously, ooseven haven\'t play any PC game in hi-res FSAA
before..

errr yes i have !

and no i don\'t think Jaggies is a main issue when it comes to games

for me the order of importance is.....

Gameplay (story as well as how it plays)
Frame rate (critical if its a FPS)
Lifespan
Graphics
Sound
AA issues

for me AA is not a Gameplay or console issue... its a developer issue.

for the PS2 the software is there to remove jaggles...its just up to the developer to use it or not.

I\'d like to see the PS3\'s resolution set to 1024x768 with optional vga / hdtv outputs. for normal tv sets i think they
should have the hardware to downsample the 1024x768 image to 800x600 (i believe this to be a pal tv maximum).
also AA should be on hardware and enabled full time. this would give games a much better look.
Also have the architecture suited for quicker development but maintain a high end bus and datathrough speeds.
and lastly, a lot more polygon pushing power alongside proper per pixel lighting and effects. lets see those fillrates at least quadrouple, and have the ability to mix effects with different grades of amounts. also isolated bluring and
re-sampled zooming. get rid of mip-mapping and use antistropic filtering. much nicer looking.

i dont want much, but hey.. it\'s a start.

[Living-In-Clip]

Rast - you\'re wanting banned altogether, aren\'t you? If so, please by all means keep it up. We can accomodate you\'re obvious request.

As for this..Here\'s what I would want. I want Sony to establish some franchises this generation and launch with them come PS3. I want a Mark of Kri 2 or 3 as a launch game, Gran Tursimo 4 or 5. Basically, I want Sony to not screw this launch up like they did the last one. I want Sony not to rely on third parties for the first year or so, like they did this time.

I also want less hype. I want more reality and less hype. Let\'s not show a duck and talk about \'toy story graphics\', let\'s show real time demo\'s and be honest on what we\'re delivering. Let\'s show launch games that will make it at launch and look next gen .

I don\'t want a HD and I don\'t want a network adapter. Those things mean nothing to me. Focus on making the system powerful, yet developer friendly. Not powerful, yet developer death.

Remodel the controller. I have never liked it and I never will. It has been the standard in the industry to take your best idea for a console controller - run with it one generation and then improve upon that idea  the next generation. Sony, for the most part forgot this step with the PS2. Maybe it\'s personal preference? I just don\'t like Sony\'s controller design. I\'m more a NGC or DC controller person myself (though JP Saturn or late American model Saturn controllers rock everything!).

If they are dead set on backwards compatablity, give it some thought this time. None of this it freezes game X and makes game Y glitchy or uglier than it already was. I would like it to be backwards compatable, but I would also like Sony to put some actual thought into it this time and not make it a marketing ploy.

That\'s all I want from Sony....the impossible..

I thought the tech demos were real time.


This time I want graphics at the same quality with the Tekken4 intro.

Do I want too much?

I want Sony to make the machine so graphically powerful that developers do not have to stress themselves out getting great graphics, and can concentrate on gameplay more

this means more then enough RAM, FSAA implemented on the hardware, Texture compression and major VRAM

and of course Dolby Digital Surround Sound

plus a harddrive type device.... Thank Xbox for making that a necessary addition to future consoles

I like the Playstation controller.I\'ll be pissed off if they do change it.Cept I keep breaking the r1 button so it gets stuck in??? always r1??

LIC: I don\'t care for network adapter either but I think network adapter are so cheap nowadays( wil be even cheaper by then), you can just throw it a in for the price of a meal at McDonalds.

ddaryl: Dobly digital surround?? Hey, isn\'t some  PS2 games already supporting this? I\'ve my PS2 hooked to my Yamaha amp via optical output for DTS and DD5.1 sound.

A few games are supporting this - SSX Tricky ( DTS - the only DTS PS2 game on the planet!!) and SOE ( Dobly surround, but the effect isn\'t too convincing ).

Others have DD5.1 during cutscenes like MGS2 and Bouncer.


Ooseven: The \'software\' method to remove the jaggies currently in the PS2 are not really efficient and for most part, shimerries are still abound. After playing games on the PC, even at 800 x600 on PC monitor can beat the TV anyday coz it\'s sharp and there\'s absolutely no shimerries. I think shimerries is a bigger problem than jaggies. There\'s still some jaggies at 800x600 on PC( I don\'t play at any res higher coz my PC isn\'t powerful enough to support it without sacrificing framerates), but the images don\'t shimmer and produce a "wavery" effect. Gameplay is of course the priority, but if the graphics is so bad, it\'s quite difficult to play the game without being annoyed.

Unicron: Real-time graphics of Tekken 4 movies ??? Ummm....I cross my fingers and hope ur wish comes true!

[Bobs_Hardware]

Medal of Honor: Frontline has surround sound also, Paul.

Originally posted by Paul
Unicron: Real-time graphics of Tekken 4 movies ??? Ummm....I cross my fingers and hope ur wish comes true!

Why not?XBOX does some awesome realistic visuals with Halo2 and PS2 with SH3.Just imagine what a 256 bit console will be capable of.

SONY BETTER MAKE ME HAPPY!!!

[Bladez]

You can copy music
PS2 and PS1 compatible
A newer controller
DVD built in
And that\'s about it.

About the system itself:

- 60Hz support for all Pal games ala Xbox and screen position adjustment (selectable from the browser).

- Backwards compatibilty (PS2 and PSX).

- No more green screen crap, thanks.

- Some improvements for the controller.

- More room for developers in general.


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- Work with those developers, not against them (better support for developers from day one).

- BETTER GAMES (some 2D) and more original content.

- Shenmue III in its full glory.

- The true sequel to WipeOut

- A PES that makes full use of the FIFPro license.

- More multiplayer games.

- Lower prices.

Originally posted by Falgarok

- Work with those developers, not against them (better support for developers from day one).
 

Sony HAS been working with the developers from day one. (why else develop such an expensive tool as PA2?)

Sony designed the PS2 in mind of the developers.
The developers main problem with the PSX was that it would not let you code on the metal. So Sony made the PS2 with that in mind.

The main problem was that PS2 was launched without complete developer libraries/manuals..

Next time they should release the console WITH complete libraries

Fastson, you\'ve to admit that the PS2 has been hard to develop for until the beginning of this year.

It launched with far from complete tools and VERY incomplete documentation, and that caused lots of problems to the developers.

Originally posted by fastson
Sony designed the PS2 in mind of the developers.
The developers main problem with the PSX was that it would not let you code on the metal. So Sony made the PS2 with that in mind.

Yes, I know that but, can\'t they make something in between?

[Paul2]

A typical ps3

DVI output and analog output
digital optical output
backward compatible with ps2, psOne with more enhanced features
Video games should run at 1280 x 720p/60hz widescreen and CG movie at 1920 x 1080p/30hz.
might used the Blue ray disc technology
4 controller ports
built in hard disk drive, about 40 gig would be fine
DD and DTS support
that\'s pretty much it for now...