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Offline Living-In-Clip

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« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2002, 09:50:46 AM »
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To require the induction into the Armed Forces of young men registered under the Military Selective Service Act , and to authorize young women to volunteer, to receive basic military training and education for a period of up to one year


First off, if this happened I would move out of this country in a heart-beat. I refuse to go to war because Bush is a power hungry dolt.

And the scarey fact is, with all these wars he is starting he will end up needing more troops - which means us that are under 28 or so could get drafted and put out on the battlefield. So, yes, it does matter to us "younger" people what the hell happens to this country. Do you want another vietnam where young people die for no reason?

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« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2002, 09:54:01 AM »
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First off, if this happened I would move out of this country in a heart-beat. I refuse to go to war because Bush is a power hungry dolt.

And the scarey fact is, with all these wars he is starting he will end up needing more troops - which means us that are under 28 or so could get drafted and put out on the battlefield. So, yes, it does matter to us "younger" people what the hell happens to this country. Do you want another vietnam where young people die for no reason?


Damn you, I was just about to ppost something similar. You pretty much stated my feelings more or less.
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« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2002, 10:04:04 AM »
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First off, if this happened I would move out of this country in a heart-beat. I refuse to go to war because Bush is a power hungry dolt.

And the scarey fact is, with all these wars he is starting he will end up needing more troops - which means us that are under 28 or so could get drafted and put out on the battlefield. So, yes, it does matter to us "younger" people what the hell happens to this country. Do you want another vietnam where young people die for no reason?


Here we go again with the Bush bashing.  If you are so opposed to him, do something about it.  You of course won\'t.  

Bush is not starting wars, he is preventing them.  What power is Bush exactly getting by removing Saddam Hussein from Iraq?  Don\'t say oil, because we only import 5 percent from Iraq (5 percent too much if you ask me).  

Hussein is a madman who kills his own people and is a threat not only to the region, but the world.  Don\'t agree?  Check this report out -   http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/120202_saddamdossier.pdf

As I said in my previous posts, your lifestyle is due to previous 18 year olds serving their country.  Also we have a professional army, you need not worry about being drafted.  If by chance the draft comes around again - write me from Canada.
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« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2002, 10:12:57 AM »
ask bjorn about mandatory military services for all citizens

what has our civilization come to when our ancestors were proud to fight for thier beliefs and going to war was an honor?  thier descendants are cowards who hide behind laziness and excuses

i would have given a year of my life for my country

shame on you if you wouldnt

(now a year for my current govt?  hell no)

anyone who doesnt live in the middle east and defends or supports hussein shot be shot for ignorance alone

LIC, whats is yer age
just curious, dont mean it as a derogitory statement
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« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2002, 10:19:18 AM »
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« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2002, 10:26:49 AM »
Firstly, do not worry about a draft. It is very unlikely that they will re-institute a draft. The armed forces do not want unwilling participants.

Thank God we have a large number of people who are willing to serve this country. When the Gulf War was gearing up we heard about the the massive casualties that would befall the US. That obviously did not happen. We are hearing the same thing now.

One day, during the Gulf War, I was walking to my office and this long haired dude asked me where the Army recruiting office was. I pointed across the street where it was located and he told me thanks! He said he wanted to join the fight in Iraq. That\'s an American.


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« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2002, 10:29:10 AM »
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One day, during the Gulf War, I was walking to my office and this long haired dude asked me where the Army recruiting office was. I pointed across the street where it was located and he told me thanks! He said he wanted to join the fight in Iraq. That\'s an American.


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Thanks for sharing that... That truly is an American.
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« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2002, 10:35:48 AM »
or a deadbeat that needed a steady paycheck
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« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2002, 10:46:28 AM »
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Whatever . . . He was willing to put his life on the line for this country. A lot of people in the service today have joined because they want an education. Would you discount their service?

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« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2002, 10:59:02 AM »
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Whatever . . . He was willing to put his life on the line for this country. A lot of people in the service today have joined because they want an education. Would you discount their service?

Ace


I\'m with ya on that, I would serve if need be, but as I see it right now they have enough people right now to basically destroy the whole middle east without having to draft a single soul, war 25 years ago is much different than today or even 10 years ago when we took on Iraq. The army has it\'s ups and downs, but I live a great life because of it, so I don\'t bitch and complain about the army at all, seeing as it has kept my family a float for the past 20 years.

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« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2002, 10:59:46 AM »
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  I wonder how many today would actually answer the call if the need arose.



It was great what that generation did.Those were awful times and an awful war that almost ended with a maniac ruling the entire world.You would think world leaders would have done what they could to end war after coming that close.They didn\'t.

It\'s been hundreds of years since this planet has had a day without war in some part of the world.Not one day.Even after the greatest of all wars nobodys done a thing to end it.So don\'t call on me cause I\'m not serving.I won\'t go to my death blindly for some so-called noble cause.You can if you want to but there will just be another "noble cause" 20 years after your dead and in the ground and if the side you were fighting for losses then your death all those years ago was pretty much pointless wasn\'t it.Would you really go so blindly for the cause of the day mm?Would you really let yourself become another forgotten bloodsmear in the history of endless wars?Cause theres just going to be another one a few years after your gone.

I guess what I\'m saying is theres no real point in dieing in war as long as theres just going to be another one right down the road.Keep doing that and eventually we\'ll lose,rendering everything you fought for moot.

And where is technology taking us.Straight to the end of the world that\'s where.You\'ve got to figure that even countries like Iraq and N.Korea can\'t be more than 20 years behind us technologicly.What were we capable of 20 years ago?Some pretty bad shit that\'s what.And our country wouldn\'t have hesitated to use a "super bug" against a country if we were losing a major war that would have cost us our country.So what are they going to do when were dominating them and on the brink of taking them over?

Take away even a little of our freedoms?No thanks.Terrorist would just work around whatever methods we would impliment. Then the government would take a little more of our freedoms to try and catch them,pretty much a never ending cycle.Americans screen for guns on airplanes?Well they allow knives with less than 6" blades so let\'s get on board with those and take over a plane.No more knives or even nail clippers?Well they dont screen your shoes for explosives?Let\'s put a bomb in a shoe and bring an airplane down.They even check the bottom of shoes now.......the terrorist will try something else,and it will be something nobodys thought of.Maybe a massive cyber attack to cripple our internet infrastructure and cost our economy billions of dollars.The government would probably want the right to monitor your computer without a warrant then.And terrorist will just do something else.They won\'t suffer because the government is monitoring everything you do online,we will.While terrorist have moved on to something else.They are  plotting their evil deeds on cell phones............
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« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2002, 11:06:37 AM »
You ben have no sense of patriotism, so all those that fought to free our country when or if ever this country begins its decline, then I guess you can say all those deaths were meaningless and pointless too??? You look so blindly at things I wonder if you think at times, good don\'t fight I wouldn\'t want someone like you out there defending our country you can stay at home a jerk off all god damn day!!! You are right if you died you would of died for nothing because you wouldn\'t have believed in it in the first place, wtf is it with people now a days, who the f*ck raised y\'all Hitler???

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« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2002, 11:08:38 AM »
So what is your answer ben high?  Sit and do nothing?  Be a nation of pacifists?  I understand what you are saying, but what you are seeking is a utopia.  Unforunately, you are correct about war and where it leads, but sitting back and doing nothing is not the answer.
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« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2002, 11:15:38 AM »
war is good business, the US realized this over 200 years go
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« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2002, 11:28:59 AM »
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I can\'t tell if your playing us with comments like this one and comments like them in other topics. I can\'t figure you out.

Yet! :)

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