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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2002, 11:29:32 PM »
Glad to hear that this games coming home to the Ps2. Now I dont have to waste my time and buy a damned XBox just to play this mofo.
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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2002, 11:41:19 PM »
Well, a PS2 version still has not be confirmed by the developers.

It\'s still being considered.

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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2002, 12:44:14 AM »
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It\'ll be on the PS2 in 2k3.

Today while at circuit city I played it on the box.  I have to say that the graphix were good but the animations sucked donkey bizalls.  He goes from a crouch to standing in like 2 frames....WTF?  Also when you get people from behind the animation jumps from the beggining to the end, there\'s no approch movement.  I was really disapointed, especially concidering the Xbox\'s graphical power.



Ah memories... I remember talking to Ryu about this when the first trailer was released. A shame really that they didn\'t cover the animation too well. :(

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Well Splinter Cell, graphically, easily outshines both those two games.


If you consider though that Splinter Cell runs at half the framerate... doesn\'t seem that impressive anymore, does it? :)

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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2002, 01:32:38 AM »
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If you consider though that Splinter Cell runs at half the framerate... doesn\'t seem that impressive anymore, does it? :)


I thought it was just bad advertising, I\'ve seen games on TV ads before that looked like they ran crap but in the flesh flow like a mountain stream.

Still can\'t wait though.

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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2002, 01:46:58 AM »
I am still amazed at how much people refuse to buy an xbox and would rather wait for a game that might not be coming out on the PS2.  Also people seem to be quite happy buying PS2 version\'s of games when the xbox versions usually have better graphics and extra levels etc.  Why would you keep buying the inferior product?

I personally like having the best console available to play the best games available.

Don\'t get me wrong I have a PS2 aswell but it hardly gets played because the xbox has better games coming out all the time.

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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2002, 01:51:42 AM »
It\'s more down to personal preference, I hate the controller which means x-box falls at the very first hurdle and has to be shot before it even loads a game.

Plus, PS2 games may more often than not be the ugly duckling of the console world but they still play the best, the competition just feel wooden in comparison.

Can\'t speak for anyone else though.

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« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2002, 02:02:34 AM »
In the top 50 games for the PS2, most are multi platform.

If you like the PS2 controller so much you can buy an adapter for the xbox, or the s controller.

I think some people need to take off the blinkers and actually play some games on the xbox.  You might find you like them.

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« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2002, 02:06:34 AM »
I recently went round to my bosses place to have a look and spent all evening playing Halo, JSRF and Project Gotham to name but a few. When I arrived home and put on the PS2 it just made me much happier.

If my mind doesn\'t like the X-Box then who am I to argue?

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« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2002, 02:07:51 AM »
Fare enough

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« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2002, 03:56:38 AM »
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I am still amazed at how much people refuse to buy an xbox and would rather wait for a game that might not be coming out on the PS2. Also people seem to be quite happy buying PS2 version\'s of games when the xbox versions usually have better graphics and extra levels etc. Why would you keep buying the inferior product?

In the top 50 games for the PS2, most are multi platform.

If you like the PS2 controller so much you can buy an adapter for the xbox, or the s controller.

I think some people need to take off the blinkers and actually play some games on the xbox. You might find you like them.


Not quite true. Out of the 50 best selling PS2 games, at least 28 titles are better or equal as good as their multi-platform counterpart. Out of those 28 games, 15 titles are exclusive and will not be out on Xbox. Also note that I was nice, as the Xbox has far less than 35 games of the PS2 top50 at the moment. Also, if you look at the top selling games of this generation, you will see that PS2 seems to have em all and are with a few exceptions exclusive.

Also you\'re looking at it from the wrong angle: most people already have a PS2, so why buy an Xbox if ~90% (a raw estimate) of Xbox games out now are out on PS2 aswell? I\'m sorry, but 2 good (IMO) exclusive games do not justify a purchase of an Xbox for me.
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« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2002, 04:25:23 AM »
Your saying 28 multiplatform games are better on the PS2?  Don\'t speak rubbish, it\'s a fact that most multiplatform games are better on the xbox.

As far as all these top selling exclusive games for the PS2?  Please list the good ones.

For xbox:-

splinter cell  96%
Unreal championship  92%
Ghost recon   88%
mech assault  92%
jedi knight 2  88%
elder scrolls 3 94%
blinx 88%

for ps2

gta v/c  97%
spyro 60%
ratchet & clank 92%
simpsons skate boarding ?
burnout 2 90%
haven 74%

I have tried to list some of the top selling games that are exclusive to each console and I think the xbox exclusives are better, apart from not having gta v/c and to be honest I played it yesterday and wasn\'t overly impressed.

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« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2002, 04:29:54 AM »
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Your saying 28 multiplatform games are better on the PS2?  Don\'t speak rubbish, it\'s a fact that most multiplatform games are better on the xbox.

As far as all these top selling exclusive games for the PS2?  Please list the good ones.

For xbox:-

splinter cell  96%
Unreal championship  92%
Ghost recon   88%
mech assault  92%
jedi knight 2  88%
elder scrolls 3 94%
blinx 88%

for ps2

gta v/c  97%
spyro 60%
ratchet & clank 92%
simpsons skate boarding ?
burnout 2 90%
haven 74%

I have tried to list some of the top selling games that are exclusive to each console and I think the xbox exclusives are better, apart from not having gta v/c and to be honest I played it yesterday and wasn\'t overly impressed.


Metal Gear Solid 2 - 95-98% (Varies with different magazines)
Gran Turismo 3
Final Fantasy X

To name a few.

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« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2002, 04:37:16 AM »
Xbox is getting mgs substance,

I hate FF games

And xbox has load\'s of racing games.

Moto gp is said to be similar.

those are quite old releases, what about the new ones?

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« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2002, 04:41:59 AM »
Timesplitters 2 - Supposed to blow the crap out of Goldeneye
Red Faction 2

Coming Soon

Devil May Cry 2
And the trump card - at some point in the future we\'ll have GTA 4 and Gran Turismo 4.

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« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2002, 04:46:11 AM »
I\'m sorry, I should have worded it better. From those 28 games, 15 games are exclusive, limiting it to 13 games that are on Xbox aswell. 3 of those games are at least better or equal as good as the Xbox counterpart. That leaves 10 games for Xbox, which isn\'t taking into account that not all of those games have been portet to Xbox yet and may not be.

As far as top-selling exclusive games for PS2:
  • GRAND THEFT AUTO:VICE TAKE
  • KINGDOM HEARTS
  • TEKKEN 4
  • GRAND THEFT AUTO 3
  • GRAN TURISMO 3:A-SPEC
  • SOCOM:U.S. NAVY SEALS
  • JAK AND DAXTER:LEGACY
  • SUIKODEN III
  • DEVIL MAY CRY
  • TEKKEN TAG TOURNAMENT
  • ATV OFF ROAD FURY
  • STUNTMAN
  • SLY COOPER & THIEVIUS
  • BURNOUT 2: IMPACT
  • WILD ARMS 3
  • ONIMUSHA 2
  • WIPEOUT FUSION


The games above are all taken from the October Sales (posted on GA forums / Beyond3d), so naturally, other best selling games such as Final Fantasy X, Metal Gear Solid 2, Silent Hill 2 and others aren\'t even listet.

Most importantly, the multiplatform PS2 games that have good sales that are equal if not better than their Xbox counterpart are NFS:HS 2, TimeSplitters 2, Metal Gear Solid 2 (compared to Substance), Onismusha 1 and others.

Also note that I didn\'t even bother to post games such as Ratchet & Clank because it wasn\'t in the top 100 selling games of October. Makes you wonder how many more games are missing on that list. Need I go on?

Besides, this was strictly on "best selling games", not best games as in quality. So, before you acuse me of talking rubbish nextime, please take the necessary time to research the web first. ;)

 

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