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« on: February 13, 2003, 01:33:17 AM »
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The mayor of New York is calling for smoking to be banned in every bar and restaurant in the city.
Michael Bloomberg is expected to ask the city council later on Monday to consider the new measures, saying they are necessary to protect worker


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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2003, 02:19:31 AM »
I love these measures. Perhaps for smokers that\'s a sh¡t but for no-smokers, like me, that\'s a heaven. I\'m pissed off every time I eat in a restaurant where you cannot see the people 2 metres ahead due to the smoke. That\'s a shame. They\'re not only killing themselves, but we too.

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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2003, 02:49:31 AM »
Being a non smoker myself it can only be a good thing.

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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2003, 04:04:21 AM »
I smoked for about ten years and was up to about 1.5 to 2 packs a day. I was at my highest cigarette use when I was on third shift at an automotive facility (A Ford plant).

I have been free of smoking since I got married due to the fact that I did not want my wife to have to be around the smoke as everyone knows second hand smoke is very bad for ones health. I have not regretted this choice from day one.

I stand behind these rulings because I care for those around me and care for my own health as well. If people want to smoke, go outside and do it or go home and do it. But when it comes to public restaurants and malls and places such as these, keep the smoke out.
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2003, 04:21:43 AM »
I agree 100%, they should just get rid of smoking all together.  But wait, the government would lose money off of all of the stupid people they got addicted to it.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2003, 05:02:33 AM »
I think it\'s another attempt at demonizing smokers.

I don\'t smoke cigs, but I do like a fine cigar once in awhile. :thepimp: I also don\'t enjoy my dinner with the smell of cigs in the air . . .  BUT it\'s MY choice whether I want to walk into a business that allows smoking on its premises. It is also the choice of the workers there if they want to work in an environment that has smoking customers.

Smoking cigs is still a legal activity. Until the government wants to give up the taxes it gets from every tobacco product sold, leave business owners alone who choose to have a business that allows smoking.

Not only that, what kind of atmosphere is a pool hall without the smell of cigars?

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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2003, 05:04:37 AM »
Ace, if you desire is to smell the smoke, you\'re right. But what to do with the people who don\'t want? These measures are the response to those desires.
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2003, 05:07:22 AM »
I agree, but businesses should have the choice in what customers they want to appeal to.

As a customer, I have the right to walk to the next restaurant to eat in a smoke free environment.

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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2003, 05:11:51 AM »
Perhaps in the area reserved for smokers, don\'t you think?
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2003, 05:32:18 AM »
I hate the fact that when I go out to a bar I come home smelling like I smoked 40 packs of cigs. In Erie county, NY where Buffalo is, smoking is prohibited in places of business, and restaurants where there is no designated smoking area.
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2003, 08:27:20 AM »
I think the free market will (should) decide if a restaurant or bar owner wants to have a smoke free environment at their business.

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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2003, 08:39:13 AM »
I agree Ace, this is another case of "government" trying to determine what is best for everyone.  I smoke and to not smoke in a bar is ridiculous.  It should be the right of the owners to determine whether they want to be smoke free or not.  

Smoking is a nasty habit, one I wish I never would have started.  That being said, I don\'t smoke in my house or my car and definitely don\'t want my child near smoke, but to declare no smoking in every bar and restaurant is down right intrusive and totalitarian.
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2003, 08:54:15 AM »
Doesn\'t really concern me, but I do agree that customers should have the ability to choose. I don\'t smoke and \'thus I select a spot from the non-smoking -section if I happen to visit a restaurant. No problems from smoke what-so-ever. Bars, on the other hand, are filthy places anyway - with or without smokes.
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2003, 10:28:16 AM »
Smoking is a self destructive, disgusting, wasteful habit that damages the health of the smoker, and other people around him/her.  Therefore, I think it\'s ok for us to ban smoking in public places and treat smokers as modern lepers.  Some of them apparently need a little more incentive to quit, since they\'re not smart enough to do it on their own accord.  California has banned smoking in all bars and restaurants, and my quality of life most definitely improved after that happened.  I don\'t give a damn how smokers feel about it.
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2003, 10:31:37 AM »
No smoking here in FL.  Just passed this year.  I haven\'t been to any bars yet though late at night to even notice the difference.  

I really don\'t care either way.  I never go out to eat with anyone who smokes or anything so I\'ve never really had to deal with it, but I know I\'d have a tough time eating if I was right next to a smoker table.  

Usually the smoker tables were far enough away though that it didn\'t annoy me.

In a bar setting though I don\'t mind the smoke.  I just hate smelling one cigarette.  Smelling a bunch in a bar for some reason is different.
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