Anti-war or just plain spam?

Oils is an economic concern, yes, but to think oil is the deciding factor in all this is simplistic at best.

We may be the largest consumer but we are also one of their best customers.

Ace

Just to play Devil\'s Advocate, what is wrong with going to war for oil?

The US uses the most oil in the world. Europe uses 82% of the amount we use and they import about the same amount as us. The Asian-Pacific uses 19% of the worlds oil w/ China alone using 7%. Oil is a global market. If Oil prices rise in one country, they tend to rise worldwide(excluding price gouging and things like that). Oil is used in almost every market from Automobile use/manufacturing to the tech industry.

So knowing all this. Is it wrong to go to war to protect a standard of living that the world is used to? I don\'t know about the rest of you but I\'ll be damned if I have to pay $2.50/gallon for my big American SUV. I\'ll go get Saddam myself if that happens.

/Devil\'s Advocate

Still, Ace is right. It is simplistic to say that the war is only about oil just like it is simplistic to say the war is about removing an evil dictator. It is a little of both. However, you have to take the past into account and understand that very few wars in history have been over anything other than monetary gain. From the Crusades to the Gulf War its pretty much all the same.

[Titan]

I wouldn\'t say its just simplistic, I\'d say its ignorant. Why would we take Iraq oil fields when we can sign treaties with places like Nigeria or buy more from Russia. Maybe we will take some oil while we are there but we aren\'t going to war just to get oil otherwise we\'ll just take the whole middle east.

[SirMystiq]

Hey man, but think about it. If they were to go into Iraq and beat the shit out of them. The oil would be FREE, FREE oil is a good thing, why pay for oil when you can go into another country that not many people like, kick the shit out of them, and keep it??

Ohh, and the price of oil has just gone up very high b/c of the cold weather.

Originally posted by SirMystiq
Hey man, but think about it. If they were to go into Iraq and beat the shit out of them. The oil would be FREE, FREE oil is a good thing, why pay for oil when you can go into another country that not many people like, kick the shit out of them, and keep it??

Ohh, and the price of oil has just gone up very high b/c of the cold weather.

SirMystiq in the political forum...  :rolleyes:

and giving out welcomes :rolleyes:

So Mystiq what freedoms have you lost???  Name one.  I dare ya.

[SirMystiq]

Giga is back..
and giving out shit...

I haven\'t lost not a single freedom. I never said I lost freedom. I just said that if we are losing any kind of freedom it\'s going to be our own fault, not other peoples actions.

[Titan]

Originally posted by SirMystiq
Hey man, but think about it. If they were to go into Iraq and beat the shit out of them. The oil would be FREE, FREE oil is a good thing, why pay for oil when you can go into another country that not many people like, kick the shit out of them, and keep it??

Ohh, and the price of oil has just gone up very high b/c of the cold weather.

WTF? It wouldn\'t be free. The government doesn\'t regulate any kind of company. That would be a merchantalist policy if they did. Companies like Mobil would take the oil fields (which I think they run them anyway) and they will still charge money. And do you know why the oil goes up in the winter? They add something to the gas for some reason (seriously, I don\'t know what but its true. something about emissions) and make it more expensive. It happens every year. Its not a big deal.