americans, how do you see now Spain and Britain?

[Titan]

True luckee. I forgot about that.

nothing money cant change

Originally posted by Titan
Adan, whats your position on the war? I really don\'t care if another country supports us.

Sincerely Titan? Well I\'m with USA. My points in favour to support Bush are:

1) Saddam is actually hiding prohibited weapons. He\'s lying to UN everyday.
2) UN has referred many times to the weapon destruction and Saddam has not offered any consistent material evidence.
3) USA and Britain are important countries with very prominent roles in the world. If we help USA, we could receive help from USA, and not only ecomical.
4) Terrorism is one of the main problems in West Society. We\'ve important terrorist groups in Spain, and I do know what\'s it. Every effort to erase it is welcomed, and all we know that Saddam supports al-qaeda.
5) Iraq\'s population is under the hand of a dictator who is killing the country\'s people of starvation.
6) Saddam is a problem himself due to his mind and politics conception. He\'s very close to Hitler or Mussolini (Notice Kurds holocaust). If he escapes to other country, the problem will be on.
7) Any country that dares to defy UN authority and resolutions deserves an attack, and I include here North Korea.
8) War is a very bad matter. For the country and for the innocent people. But I think Iraq will reborn (economically, politically and socially) after the fall of Saddam.

Britain = ally since WWI, trusted.  Same situation as US economy.
Spain = I feel they are a neutral country, not really on the world stage at the moment.

I\'m not sure what to think of Spain right now.

It\'s just kind of ironic that we\'re learning about the Spanish-American war right now (in US history) while Spain is supporting us in this war.

Of course The Hurricane, Spain is not an influent nor important country in the world, and never will. It lacks of power.

One day we were the lord of the world...

Originally posted by Adan

Sincerely Titan? Well I\'m with USA. My points in favour to support Bush are:

1) Saddam is actually hiding prohibited weapons. He\'s lying to UN everyday.
2) UN has referred many times to the weapon destruction and Saddam has not offered any consistent material evidence.
3) USA and Britain are important countries with very prominent roles in the world. If we help USA, we could receive help from USA, and not only ecomical.
4) Terrorism is one of the main problems in West Society. We\'ve important terrorist groups in Spain, and I do know what\'s it. Every effort to erase it is welcomed, and all we know that Saddam supports al-qaeda.
5) Iraq\'s population is under the hand of a dictator who is killing the country\'s people of starvation.
6) Saddam is a problem himself due to his mind and politics conception. He\'s very close to Hitler or Mussolini (Notice Kurds holocaust). If he escapes to other country, the problem will be on.
7) Any country that dares to defy UN authority and resolutions deserves an attack, and I include here North Korea.
8) War is a very bad matter. For the country and for the innocent people. But I think Iraq will reborn (economically, politically and socially) after the fall of Saddam.

1. probable for some and also true for others.
2. b/c he wants to keep them and thinks he can hide a few under the rug.
4. He doesnt directly support al-queada. in fact, no one has proven a link between him and al-queada. he supports the families of suicide bombers.
5. As sad as it is, that is a problem of the Iraqi ppl. They can ask for help if it is needed like kuwait did.
8. Like Isreal?
9. I think they will after soemtime, but it wont help the US in terms of relations as they will dislike our hands in their governing. IE..dummy government.

Originally posted by luckee


1. probable for some and also true for others.
2. b/c he wants to keep them and thinks he can hide a few under the rug.
4. He doesnt directly support al-queada. in fact, no one has proven a link between him and al-queada. he supports the families of suicide bombers.
5. As sad as it is, that is a problem of the Iraqi ppl. They can ask for help if it is needed like kuwait did.
8. Like Isreal?
9. I think they will after soemtime, but it wont help the US in terms of relations as they will dislike our hands in their governing. IE..dummy government.

It\'s the duty of powerful nations to avoid people\'s suffering due to a monster. USA hadn\'t nothing to do with Nazis and Jews. And what? That means that USA was not ethically forced to help Europe? If USA hadn\'t helped, I cannot think in the nowadays Europe. Free countries have the duty to join the alliance and save those places which have not the luck of living in freedom. In we don\'t help each other, who will do?

We didnt do anything untill we were attacked by japan.

Yep but you could have attacked Japan, destroy the country and reduce to dust its population. But you also helped Europe. Remember that Normandy is one of the greatest moments in the history. You knew Europe couldn\'t bear any more.

I wonder how long the US government would have allowed Germany to run those camps and kill all of those innocent ppl had Japan never bombed Pearl Harbor.

Originally posted by luckee
I wonder how long the US government would have allowed Germany to run those camps and kill all of those innocent ppl had Japan never bombed Pearl Harbor.

Better not to wonder