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Offline ooseven
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« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2003, 04:48:44 AM »
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Okay if the UN is irellivent, why are we pushing for a war because Iraq broke a UN resolution?


The more you unravel this the more it gets :confused:ing

Because Saddam has Human rights abuses.

no wait Turkey and S Arabia is just as bad, plus it\'s a known fact that Turkish forces have displaced 1000\'s of Iraqi Kurds over the past 20 years.

ok its to stop terrorest geting WMD.

No .... Intelligence say that’s highly unlikely , and they could just get them easier from other countries.

its due to legal issues... i.e. the UN resolutions .

No wait... it was proven that other countries have violated UN resolutions and we are not going to attack them are we.


anyway all this = :confused: :confused: :confused:
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« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2003, 04:49:16 AM »
Some will argue we should have not even gone to the UN in the first place.

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« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2003, 05:01:53 AM »
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Some will argue we should have not even gone to the UN in the first place.

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Errrr..... Sorry but if you read my new thread then you will see the reason why.

AT THE MOMENT....the UN is the Forum to decide on such matters.
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« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2003, 05:05:04 AM »
I\'ll read your thread soon. We do not need to go to the UN. We chose to go to the Un.

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« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2003, 05:27:01 AM »
IMO France, Russia... whatever, can veto whatever they want without having to be threatened.

The US has vetoed other proposals before.
Its only now when other countries go against the mighty superpower its looked upon as useless.

I bet they didn’t think that when the UN wanted to punish the US for her actions in Nicaragua?
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« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2003, 06:21:21 AM »
The UN is like the French Maginot Line. Anyone can go around it or over it.
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« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2003, 07:48:27 AM »
I didn\'t read most of the posts I have to admit but one quote from Simchoy jumped out at me

"One of the reasons why the Palistinians don\'t have a nation is because of all those suicide bombers".

Thats a little wrong methinks, the reason Palestinians have suicide bombers is because they don\'t have a country, it was taken from them, sort of like an Arab IRA.

Sorry, just my tuppence worth in the never ending war/peace debate that\'s starting to sound like a broken record.

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« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2003, 08:35:36 AM »
Hong Kong were under the British rule. The Kantonese, instead of uprising and killing Brits, decided to just work and become among the most wealthy cities in the world.

Now...that may not be a fair comparison to the Palestinians. They had a chance to make their own country but they didn\'t. The Jews were more organized and took back their land they had settles in 5000 years ago. Since that time, they\'d been displaced by many nations long gone. They came back when the Romans took power there....then lost it after Islam took over. In 1947, they took it back. The Palestinians were pretty much ousted from nearly every Arab state in the Middle East they had refuged to.
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« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2003, 10:09:13 AM »
Why are we going to war if its against UN resolutions? Who says that US is going to war with Iraq because of the UN? Bush was ready to go disarm Iraq to stop Saddam WITHOUT the UN until Colin Powell, thinking that going to the UN in the first place was a smart idea, went to the UN to "gain" support from the world community. Which obviously, is not happening.

In fact, like I said before, Clinton DID NOT get UN approval for the Bosnian incident, the bombing of a "drug" plant in Sudan, the bombing in Iraq for WMD that Saddam has. Its only now, with a Repulbican in office, do we here people saying that we should have UN approval. Hmmmmmmmmm.

Iraq has WMD. THIS IS WHY WE ARE GOING IN! UN or NO UN.

The UN is a forum. A forum that, for all intent and purpose, is a failure. In order for the UN to actually work, it shouldn\'t be bias to one group or another (which usually falls under a left/right, Muslim/non-Muslim, dictator/free world) in achieving what should\'ve been the ultimate goal, world peace. Which, with Cambodia, Kosovo, Rwanda, and Somolia (off the top of my head) shows that the UN is pretty much, illrelevent.

I used to believe the UN could\'ve been great. But at the moment, its becoming another League of Nations. Another forum that was supposed to be a place where nations should\'ve worked out their differences to prevent war. Instead, World War 2 was the cause due to their unability to even enforce their own policies. Making them, as the UN appears to be heading in the same direction.

As for the Palistinian bombers, thats still not an excuse for the murder of innocent civilians! :mad: If it was against military personal, "maybe" I\'d have more sympathy for their "plight". But as it stands, their leaders, ineffective, and the bombers are KEEPING THE PALISTINIANS FROM EVER HAVING A COUNTRY!

Not to mention, many of the killers don\'t care that they don\'t have a country. They only care about pushing the Jews out of Israel. Their one and only goal. Not all of them OF COARSE, but many of them.

Which, you mention the IRA, the original goal of the IRA was for Northern Ireland to succeed from Britain and become a part of Ireland. Despite years of terrorism, that hasn\'t happen now has it? It wasn\'t until the violence stopped did Northern Ireland has, some semblance of self-rule. Not part of Ireland nor independant from Britian, but still, some semblance of self-rule is in place there.

You can argue why the Palistinians blow themselves up, the simple fact is, it keeps them from having their nation.
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« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2003, 10:17:08 AM »
NEWS BULLETIN:

UN WEAPONS INSPECTOR HANS BLIX: \'I\'m more worried about global warming than I am of any major military conflict\'...

Reported on the Drudge Report.

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« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2003, 10:21:12 AM »
^^^
He seriously believes that? :eek:
:laughing:

Isn\'t 3 of the Great Lakes frozen over in one of THE COLDEST winters on record?

Didn\'t we have RECORD LOW temperatures this winter in the East Coast?

Amazing.
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« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2003, 10:23:20 AM »
I have been freezing my ass off this winter here in the North East. One of the coldest winters ever.

Mr Blix, you sir are a moron!

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« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2003, 10:52:06 AM »
I think he meant that he is more worried of global warming happening than war.  ie.  He doesn\'t believe the US will attack Iraq.  Stupid statement either way.
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