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Offline jp6666
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« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2003, 04:01:32 PM »
i think its wrong to fire someone over his opinion ..... discrimination
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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2003, 05:10:02 PM »
Here is a case of you guys wanting to live with things blinded from you. You disagree with what he said - so he is arrogant and should be fired. Yet, you all love this "freedom" of speech thing when it comes in hand..for YOU and people who SHARE YOUR OPINION.
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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2003, 06:03:55 PM »
Good point L-I-C.

Bottom line:  He was fired because the executive branch didn\'t like his opinion.  The networks have no balls, so they sacked him.  Seriously, this interview didn\'t hurt anyone.  Power supports the First Amendment only when it\'s convenient.
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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2003, 06:19:20 PM »
I woulda fired his ass for being a smug, attention seeking, arsehole. :)
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« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2003, 06:49:07 PM »
[nelson]Ha ha[/nelson]

oh man, sucks for him
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« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2003, 07:27:12 PM »
The guy single handedly risked the lives of many many soldiers.  If the Iraqi people began feeling like they should surrender because they have no shot, well they have reason to fight now.

Whatever..  This forum lives on giving out false info so no wonder you guys don\'t see my point.
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« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2003, 08:27:11 PM »
Hah ha ha.  Arnett risked soldiers\' lives because he conviced Iraqis that maybe they shouldn\'t give up after all?   I think you overestimate the power of a dorky balding white man.  It\'s just more opinion control.  No one\'s allowed to have an opinion differing from the US Goverment view, not even the Iraqis!  LOL!
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« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2003, 09:17:44 PM »
He has the right to say what he wants. Nobody will throw him in jail. His bosses have the right to choose whether or not to keep him on the pay roll. Freedom of speech is all well and good, but other people\'s freedom of choice can bite you in the ass at times.
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« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2003, 11:45:23 PM »
If these people have any doubt in their minds that they could quite possibly stop U.S. and Allied forces(speaking of the freedom fighters or fundamentalist muslims) then yes what he said was wrong and if they believe in a harsh brutal religion that they believe in then who\'s to say that they wouldn\'t believe some bald dorky white guy.
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« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2003, 04:36:05 AM »
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Hah ha ha.  Arnett risked soldiers\' lives because he conviced Iraqis that maybe they shouldn\'t give up after all?   I think you overestimate the power of a dorky balding white man.  It\'s just more opinion control.  No one\'s allowed to have an opinion differing from the US Goverment view, not even the Iraqis!  LOL!


You wouldn\'t see the point of a pencil if it was shoved up your ass.  I\'m not saying that he shouldn\'t be allowed to say how he feels.  I\'m saying that what he said on Iraqi TV was wrong to say.  He said that what the Iraqis were doing is working and is making the US rethink their plan.  

That is completely false.  The Iraqis have lost thousands and thousands of men.  This is giving tremendous false hope to the Iraqis.

Imagine if you were living in Iraq and you saw a westerner repeatedly over and over agin on the TV saying that you were doing well in the war.  Follow that up with tons of shots of Saddam that you think are from that day, but are more than likely weeks old.  You then listen to music saying Saddam is wonderful.  I\'m sorry, but these people are certainly going to believe what he is saying and not only that, could rally falsely around what he says.  

The US war effort is based on hoping the Iraqi people take down Baghdad on their own from the inside. There is no way they will do that if they have even the tiniest incling of a notion that we won\'t take Saddam out.


I\'m not at all saying that Peter can\'t say whatever he wants, but I wouldn\'t want him representing my company either.  The guy is an arrogant old fuddy duddy anyway.  If you\'ve seen any of his NG reports you\'d see how much he thinks he is better than all of the other journalists.  He just kisses the Iraqi gov\'t\'s ass the most.  

PS: Sorry about the pencil joke.  :)
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« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2003, 09:43:26 AM »
It\'s not that I don\'t understand your point, it\'s that I don\'t agree with it.  There is a difference.  Constantly harping about people missing your point is a little insulting.

The Iraqis are continuously subjected to propaganda, and if Arnett made any tiny contribution to it by stating the obvious, it was like spit in a river.  He didn\'t say anything that wasn\'t a simple observation any outsider could make.  Oh and by the way, he was right.

If the US war plan depends on the Iraqis revolting agains Saddam, then our military leaders are stupider than I thought they were.  It would be much wiser to assume the worst case scenario, and depend on the Iraqis fighting for every inch of their country.  To expect otherwise is to not respect our enemy, which leads to underestimations and screw-ups.
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« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2003, 09:49:07 AM »
Um how was he right?  The US changed its war plan?  The battle plan for war is an ever evolving process.  To say there is one plan and it has been changed is ridiculous.  The tactics change day to day based on enemy troop positions and intelligence data.  I find his whole comment ignorant as he has no knowledge of military planning.
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« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2003, 10:00:06 AM »
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It\'s not that I don\'t understand your point, it\'s that I don\'t agree with it.  There is a difference.  Constantly harping about people missing your point is a little insulting.

The Iraqis are continuously subjected to propaganda, and if Arnett made any tiny contribution to it by stating the obvious, it was like spit in a river.  He didn\'t say anything that wasn\'t a simple observation any outsider could make.  Oh and by the way, he was right.

If the US war plan depends on the Iraqis revolting agains Saddam, then our military leaders are stupider than I thought they were.  It would be much wiser to assume the worst case scenario, and depend on the Iraqis fighting for every inch of their country.  To expect otherwise is to not respect our enemy, which leads to underestimations and screw-ups.


Well you keep expounding on points I never made so that\'s why I thought you missed my point.  My bad.

And he was right.  The Iraqis are catching the US off gaurd by doing suicide bombings, dressing up like civilians, etc...  Problem is that shit like what happened today will happen more and more.  Innocent civilians are going to get shot up because we don\'t know if they are militant or not.  Although they will probably die anyway cause their military likes to put tanks next to daycares and shit.

And the US war plan doesn\'t depend on the Iraqi\'s revolting.  It would just make this thing end quicker.
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« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2003, 03:02:10 PM »
he was fired b/c he is only interested in making people turn that channel.  doesn\'t care about the lives of the people he may endanger.  Geraldo is same.  Give both of em a ride on a tomahawk.
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« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2003, 03:23:55 PM »
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he was fired b/c he is only interested in making people turn that channel.  doesn\'t care about the lives of the people he may endanger.  Geraldo is same.  Give both of em a ride on a tomahawk.
I don\'t think you can say that about Arnett; he\'s a pretty boring fellow.  Geraldo on the other hand, well I agree I wouldn\'t mind sending him to do an expose on potential Iraqi bombing targets.
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