Do Americans understand what war is?

Joe, it\'s much better to try and persuade someone with facts or reasoning.

Ace

But you can\'t reason with Clowd so it\'s pointless.

[Titan]

And I believe clowd is American, isn\'t he?

[videoholic]

Well it\'s hard to call him American.  I think he\'s stated several times how much he dislikes it here or hates america or something.  I dunno.  I zone out on half of his posts.

America is showing its true colors

200 years of corruption

They won\'t change

That is why my heart looks down upon this government,  and any government for that matter.  I shall go back to my neutral state of mind.  When somebody asks me "Do you see what is going on over in Iraq?"

I will say "It\'s sad."  and nothing more.  

Because I know much worst then this will happen in the coming months, years,  so if I let this get to me,  how will I be able to take what is coming?

[SirMystiq]

Originally posted by GigaShadow
I can\'t believe clowd is insinuating that pictures of mutilated bodies can make one comprehend the horrors of war more so than those that don\'t see them.

Looking at a picture is not the same as looking at it in person. No, pictures won\'t show you the horrors of war or whatever. But you have to look at it from the point of view of the people that DO see this THAT have seen this and that have gone through this.

My 3 year old brother was watching tv the day that Baghdad was first bombed. He asked me if people were dying.....What was I supposed to tell a 3 year old kid about war?

"It\'s being fought for a very very good cause and as soon as the war is over they will find that cause."?

Or that only the "bad" people are dying??

I don\'t see why you people like to **** clowd up so much. Why is he so ignorant? Because he doesn\'t see things the way you do? Because he isn\'t as gifted and intellectually capable of grasping reality and the true meanings behind all this like you think you do?

How many of you have actually seen a mutilated body from a loved one? How many of you have seen someone being shot by the people that have come to "liberate" you? How many of you have seen a bomb explode killing your friends and family??


I support the troops. I hope that whatever they do everything goes right for them. In the other hand, Screw Bush and all republicans. Sure its great that the US and the other forces are freeing this country, but you also have to realize that this is in fact a step of the building of the US empire and rule or whatever. That this is another "conquered" country. Wether the people control it or not. Now, it\'s basically US property.

Originally posted by Clowd


Because I know much worst then this will happen in the coming months, years

Like what?

clowd, european?

please don\'t confuse neutral with ignorant, its dangerous

it\'s easier to cry about the problem, then do something about it

..hmm you managed to insult me 3 times in 3 sentences.  Wow your so witty.  You don\'t know me or my background

Since I am just some person who is trying to impress other people with what you call radical beliefs,  why not ignore me?  Or just ban me so you don\'t have to listen to me anymore?

Luke you will see,  that is my answer.

Originally posted by SirMystiq


My 3 year old brother was watching tv the day that Baghdad was first bombed. He asked me if people were dying.....What was I supposed to tell a 3 year old kid about war?

I don\'t see why you people like to **** clowd up so much. Why is he so ignorant? Because he doesn\'t see things the way you do? Because he isn\'t as gifted and intellectually capable of grasping reality and the true meanings behind all this like you think you do?

How many of you have actually seen a mutilated body from a loved one? How many of you have seen someone being shot by the people that have come to "liberate" you? How many of you have seen a bomb explode killing your friends and family??


I support the troops. I hope that whatever they do everything goes right for them. In the other hand, Screw Bush and all republicans. Sure its great that the US and the other forces are freeing this country, but you also have to realize that this is in fact a step of the building of the US empire and rule or whatever. That this is another "conquered" country. Wether the people control it or not. Now, it\'s basically US property.

You have no clue what the hell you are talking about...

I feel sorry for your 3 year old brother in that he has to rely on you for explanations... :rolleyes:

clowd is as ignorant as are you mystik

When have you seen a mutilated body of a "loved one"?  Don\'t even try and make up something either.  Like your fake girlfriend, etc.  Did the Federalis get some of your family??? :rolleyes:

Lastly, Iraq is not US Property nor do we want it.  The days of colonialism are long gone so stop beating a dead horse.  Get over your hatred of Bush just because he didn\'t "keep his promise" to all the illegal mexican aliens living in this country.  Frankly, I don\'t think he would ever get a bill passed that gave them all citizenship.  Don\'t try to deny that is the real reason you don\'t like him as you have stated it as the very reason you don\'t like him in a previous post.

clowd, i dun have to know you

yer views are more whacked then anyone i\'ve ever met

if it was u to you, we would live in caves and never speak to each other

Originally posted by Clowd
America is showing its true colors

200 years of corruption

They won\'t change

That is why my heart looks down upon this government,  and any government for that matter.  I shall go back to my neutral state of mind.  When somebody asks me "Do you see what is going on over in Iraq?"

I will say "It\'s sad."  and nothing more.  

Because I know much worst then this will happen in the coming months, years,  so if I let this get to me,  how will I be able to take what is coming?

Whoaooo that sounds so whacked up it could have come from the Patriot storyline at the end of Metal Gear Solid 2.

Originally posted by Clowd


Luke you will see,  that is my answer.

of course it is.

[Titan]

Clowd, if you don\'t like America, get the hell out.

[SirMystiq]

Originally posted by GigaShadow


You have no clue what the hell you are talking about...

I feel sorry for your 3 year old brother in that he has to rely on you for explanations... :rolleyes:

clowd is as ignorant as are you mystik

When have you seen a mutilated body of a "loved one"?  Don\'t even try and make up something either.  Like your fake girlfriend, etc.  Did the Federalis get some of your family??? :rolleyes:

Lastly, Iraq is not US Property nor do we want it.  The days of colonialism are long gone so stop beating a dead horse.  Get over your hatred of Bush just because he didn\'t "keep his promise" to all the illegal mexican aliens living in this country.  Frankly, I don\'t think he would ever get a bill passed that gave them all citizenship.  Don\'t try to deny that is the real reason you don\'t like him as you have stated it as the very reason you don\'t like him in a previous post.

What don\'t I have a clue about?

Do you? Who the **** is going to run Iraq? Tell me that. Who is going to set up the government for the Iraqi people? Tell me that.

I didn\'t say I\'ve ever seen a mutilated body. I asked if you have? You seem so sure that you don\'t have to live through a war in order to understand the terrors of a war. Because you never have. I\'ts easy to say, "It\'s a War, people will die". Because you are not one of them.

I don\'t like Bush for that very reason. Also he is a Republican. Also because he decided to make this war happen, and lots of other things. So Bush can GTH, and you can too.