Bush is really on a roll now...

Warning? or threat? is the question.

The US doesn\'t warn ppl, they threaten. We wouldn\'t take to kindly to someone *warning* us about our world policies.

When you are the top dog you make the rules. I can\'t say it any differently. It may sound harsh but I believe it\'s true.

Ace

Originally posted by luckee
Warning? or threat? is the question.

The US doesn\'t warn ppl, they threaten. We wouldn\'t take to kindly to someone *warning* us about our world policies.

Other countries warn the US all the time.

That is true to an extent. Just think back to HS. The Jocks made and enforced the rules..not the *weak* nerds.

However, that type of mentality brings alot of enemies and at some point you have to wonder when it is no longer worth it or when has that threat become to large.

A guy I went to school with..a nerd by all accounts. I fancied(sp?) his sister and that is how I got to know him as a person. He was a rather cool guy, he just didnt fit into the norm. At any rate, the guys that made the rules kept pushing and pushing him and others like him. Eventually, this particular guy couldn\'t and wouldn\'t take it anymore. He ended up buying a rifle and shooting some guy years later that didnt even remember him, even when the rifle was in his face( or so Ive heard) and got killed.

This guy was deemed insane and never served jail time and later hung himself in an institution.

*edit* point being..you can continue to make rules and poke ppl with sticks, but eventually it will come back to you in a very bad way.

Do you think if terrorism did not hit our shores in such a devastating way, that we would be in the same situation?

Ace

Oops sorry about my short response luckee, I got a phone call in the middle of my response.  I would just like to add that N. Korea is a prime example of a country that repeatedly "warns" us.

If in the position of china and NK the way the US carries on with them, Id do the same. DO you really think that our spy planes always were over international airspace and never went into theirs???

Ace: of course not, if 9/11 would have never occured, we would never have went after bin laden although we KNEW how evil he was. We never would have over thrown the taliban even thoguh we KNEW how eveil they were, and we would never have gone into Iraq again, even though we KNEW how evil they were.

Well luckee, it seems that you might want it both ways. Should we do nothing or clean up this mess now while we can?

As I have said before, I know we are not perfect but some of you guys feel the need to just point out the bad things we do here and abroad.

Ace

Originally posted by Ace
When you are the top dog you make the rules. I can\'t say it any differently. It may sound harsh but I believe it\'s true.

Ace

This is what worries me.

Just because a country exists that doesn\'t like the US doesn\'t mean they should be attacked.

YOU ARE NOT GODS, YOU DO NOT HOLD ALL THE POWER IN SHAPING THE WORLD TO YOUR LIKING. IF YOU CARRY ON LIKE THIS EVEN PEOPLE THAT LIKE AMERICA WILL BE TURNED OFF. COUNTRIES WILL ALWAYS EXIST THAT DON\'T LIKE OTHER COUNTRIES, IT\'S THE WAY IT IS. AMERICA HOLDS WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION (THE BIGGEST IN THE WORLD), WHAT MAKES ANOTHER COUNTRY THAT HASN\'T DONE ANYTHING WRONG HAVE LESS RIGHT TO THE SAME WEAPONS.

(Repeat this mantra 10 times a day to save becoming a tosser.)

Simple answer, get yer fecking noses out of the whole rest of the worlds business and deal with the knowlege that a country exists that isn\'t too keen on you. Ever since 9/11 we\'ve had this shit pushed in our faces about how things need to change and that the world is a dangerous place, IT\'S BEEN LIKE IT FOR DECADES, Its just that now you\'ve been forced to look further than the ends of your noses you\'re slightly worried.

As Cypher said in the Matrix, "Ignorance is bliss"

(besides, you could die tomorrow, you\'ll be pissed if you\'ve wasted all your time on Arabs that want to kill you but can\'t afford the fares)

Not really..I dont think we should engage in unecessary politics and wars. Very few have asked us to do something about saddam, so they obviously dont feel he is that big of a threat. We didnt do anything with his massive tropp movements towards kuwait years ago. We didnt do anything untill kuwait asked for help.

Of course we point those things out b/c if we didnt, ppl just walk around simply stating the good. Only seeing one side isnt cool. The US as a whole are some of the biggest hypocrits and ppl act as if we are holier than thou more often than not.

You know what Green Meanie, I agree in a way.

I would like nothing better at this point than to build a big wall around the US and to say the hell with the rest of the world. Just remember that for everything YOU think we do wrong or bad in this world there is a lot of good we do that no one else will take care of.

Ace

Just to state once again, it\'s not US citizens that are the problem, it\'s the foreign policy smelling worse that King Kongs first dump of the day that really bothers us.

That and people agreeing with it blindly in a serious case of \'flag-love above all else\'.

Ace : Just read your reply, sorry, I was writing my own when yours was done. I agree that there is a lot of work done by all allied countries/forces to keep the \'little\' people in an OK state, what with aid drops etc. I just never see the reason starting a war when it can bring nothing but Fear & Loathing (and not even in Las Vegas) from a hell of a lot of the international community. If this Syria thing ends up turning into a war I know who\'s fault it is and hope we don\'t send any troops.

Well I don\'t think it bothers everyone. This war is going extremely well and we will see what the fallout is if any. I am hopeful this is the beginning of a better day for everyone involved.

Sorry for being so optimistic.

Ace

Regardless of 9/11 or not, I believe we would have taken on Iraq.  Iraq has been a problem since the Gulf War (even Clinton launched a few cruise missles at them) and it wasn\'t going to resolve itself in the eyes of the US government.  I think 9/11 hastened the operation in Iraq, but it would have happened sooner or later.

The reaction after 9/11 was one of two reactions a rabbit can have. The first is to Freeze, the second is to pick a direction and go mental.

The outcome of the Iraq war was inevitable, I just wish the reasons were better as the whole war thing I think requires totally conclusive proof and reasons coming out of its ears to be valid, it\'s just such a huge nasty thing affecting so many people that it needs a firm grounding.