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Offline Ace
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Cheering the enemy
« on: April 18, 2003, 10:11:21 AM »
How sad.

What do you think?


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Inside Politics

Greg Pierce

News and political dispatches from around the nation.

Gary Kamiya, executive editor of the left-leaning Internet journal Salon (http://www.salon.com), confirms what some Americans have only suspected: Liberals were cheering for the enemy in Iraq.
     "I have a confession: I have at times, as the war has unfolded, secretly wished for things to go wrong," Mr. Kamiya wrote last week. "Wished for the Iraqis to be more nationalistic, to resist longer. Wished for the Arab world to rise up in rage. Wished for all the things we feared would happen. I\'m not alone: A number of serious, intelligent, morally sensitive people who oppose the war have told me they have had identical feelings."
     More casualties would have been a preferred alternative to the "larger moral negative" of a victory that boosted President Bush\'s chances for re-election, he said.
     "Many antiwar commentators have argued that once the war started, even those who oppose it must now wish for the quickest, least-bloody victory followed by the maximum possible liberation of the Iraqi people," he wrote. "But there is one argument against this: What if you are convinced that an easy victory will ultimately result in a larger moral negative — four more years of Bush, for example, with attendant disastrous policies, or the betrayal of the Palestinians to eternal occupation, or more imperialist meddling in the Middle East or elsewhere?
     "Wishing for things to go wrong is the logical corollary of the postulate that the better things go for Bush, the worse they will go for America and the rest of the world."


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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2003, 01:19:30 PM »
What a selfish little prick

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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2003, 03:07:35 PM »
Yup selfish was the first word that popped in my head.Hoping for more american casualties?More Iraqi resistance?No doubt that would have led to a longer war and more casualties on both sides.
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2003, 03:19:18 PM »
Ohh c\'mon. We humans crave blood, we crave danger and unexpecting things. Im pretty sure everyone of you deep down wanted to see what would of happened is the Iraqi soldiers had used chemical weapons, had restisted longer, had defeated the Coalition.
Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2003, 05:26:37 PM »
Iraq isnt my enemy

I don\'t see any reason why they should be

So when I wanted them to fight back the invaders,  I wasnt rooting for the enemy.  

I can\'t just sit back and watch anybody,  not matter what they have done in the past,  be exterminated and have their entire family hunted down over BS.  Don\'t bring up what they did to their own people in the past,  because that\'s not what this war was over.  Bring up WMDs and Iraq sponsoring of terrorist organizations,  OK.  Because this war was over WMDs and sponsoring of terrorism.  So I judge Hussein and his government over these 2 reasons.

And so far he has been innocent

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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2003, 07:55:08 PM »
I see nothing wrong with his views. He is entitled to them, and to a certain point, I can almost agree with them.

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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2003, 12:07:02 AM »
I bet most of you didnt turn away from the twin towers falling down either.

Most humans love to see these types of things no matter how disturbing they are.

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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2003, 03:13:59 AM »
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I see nothing wrong with his views. He is entitled to them, and to a certain point, I can almost agree with them.


No one is saying he should not be able to have that view. At what point do you agree with him?

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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2003, 03:16:02 AM »
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Originally posted by luckee
I bet most of you didnt turn away from the twin towers falling down either.

Most humans love to see these types of things no matter how disturbing they are.

We are all animals...


I think that\'s a different argument. How does this relate to the the article?

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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2003, 07:07:08 AM »
As far as political agenda\'s..nothing.

My comments had to do with the person "secretly wished for things to go wrong"
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2003, 08:26:07 AM »
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Originally posted by luckee
I bet most of you didnt turn away from the twin towers falling down either.

Most humans love to see these types of things no matter how disturbing they are.

We are all animals...


You do have a point. I was glued to my tv watching the twin towers fall over and over again until they stopped but I guess that\'s the kind of thing that movie makers portray, war, violence and we kind of think of it as a movie and think its cool to watch it. But its a very different story when you are in the towers or you are on the battle field.
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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2003, 11:34:18 AM »
If things would of went wrong - people would of been less likely to be happy about this war and it would of probably gurantee\'d that Bush wouldn\'t serve a second term. As it is, the war went smooth , which means if Bush projects we go after another country like Syria - most American\'s will probably support it.

Plus it would of been more "poetic" for the Iraqi people to stand up and run us out of the country.
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2003, 12:59:49 PM »
I was hoping for more of them to be shooting out the windows of houses and so on. We didn\'t see half of the bag of tricks that exists during urban warfare. I was expecting and hoping for a bloody battle in Baghdad. I guess we can refer that back to the Iraqi loyalness to Saddam.

And wtf, where was that "unconventional attack"? :mad:
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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2003, 03:45:58 PM »
Or their airforce.....

Or the chemical/biological attacks, plus other WOMD.....
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« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2003, 06:35:12 AM »
Some of you guys are upset that we won? You are also upset that there we fewer than advertised coalition deaths. I am somewhat stunned.

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