For those that have seen the matrix reloaded (no spoilers)

[GmanJoe]

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
I saw the movie tonight and I thought it was downright terrible. Why?

• In the original Matrix - Morphues told Neo to run if he saw an Agent , that no one had ever defeated an Agent and guess what? That\'s what they did. They ran from Agent\'s, \'cept for Neo at the end. In this one, goin\' up against an Agent was an everyday thing and no big deal.

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It\'s possible that they have learned much from Neo. Morpheus and Trinity are able to bend the rules a little better than they did in the first movie, whereas Neo can change it around him.

As for your comment about the Rave scene in the cave, I agree it was long and drawn out. However, it was to convey humanity\'s freedom of expression and to use their bodies with feeling and passion where they could never have while attached to the Matrix.

Are you familiar with Dante\'s Inferno? The rave cave scene was similar. Do you recall Persephone? The Italian hottie who got a passionate kiss from Neo? In Greek mythology, she\'s the wife of Hades. The queen who yearns to be back to the surface. In Greek myth, when she does come back, Spring returns to Earth. When she leaves to go back to her husband, Autumn and Winter take over.

It\'s possible that she will have an integral part in the next movie. A very pivitol role. Maybe.

Originally posted by GmanJoe


Because if humans are left free, they will attack the Matrix and sabatage it.

they could\'ve just killed humans, and than used cows

[GmanJoe]

Originally posted by politiepet

they could\'ve just killed humans, and than used cows

I don\'t think the cows survived the nukes.

That whole rave thing reminded me of the Ewok village scene at the end of Return of the Jedi... just a bit more mature.

[GmanJoe]

And far less hair.

EWOKS????

[Living-In-Clip]

I still think you people are drawing straws and that in the end - the movie won\'t be near as complicated as some of your guys theories.

Though at this point it is painfully obvious that Agent Smith is the key point to the story. I tend to agree with the idea that he could infect everyone and Neo\'s true purpose is to destory Agent Smith.


I was looking for the "uncopyable" special effects that one of the directors claimed Reloaded would have. I saw nothing that couldn\'t be copied - unless they was talking about the Twins and I truly doubt they was.

All this movie seemed to me was a way to long intro to the 3rd installment.

[Living-In-Clip]

So very true and with little to no pay-off , for that long intro.

Hopefully the payoff is that Revolution is actually a great movie, but I don\'t know how much of a chance that is.

Originally posted by GigaShadow
That whole rave thing reminded me of the Ewok village scene at the end of Return of the Jedi... just a bit more mature.

For some odd reason i thought this too.

To quote another person\'s theory : Agent Smith cloning power is integral to the Matrix. Now being a virus, Agent Smith becomes the most dangerous portion of the Matrix. He can take over anyone’s body inside the Matrix, and his clones have the same ability. Once he takes over the body, the mind is deleted, and the subject’s body is only kept alive by Agent Smith, so the persons mind dies. Now think of his duplication powers, they become real important here. Let’s follow the math. 1 agent duplicates, and makes 2 agents. 2 agents in return can clone 2 more agents making four. Now we are going down the line here. But at that pace, Agent Smith can infect the mind of everyone in the Matrix within a given amount of time. If he does take over everyone, and shuts himself down, the matrix will crash, and everyone dies. This is what makes Agent Smith the most dangerous person in the Matrix.

Why was Neo was created?

According to the Architect, Neo was an animally, or a mathematical equation that had to occur. If his role is not to free those in the Matrix, then what is his role? The answer is he was made to kill Agent Smith. For every animally that is formed to be good, there is one to be bad. And Agent Smith is the exact opposite of Neo. Above we already stated why Agent Smith is so dangerous, and now we know that Neo is what needs to stop him. Your argument could be that Neo created Agent Smith. Well that is true, but maybe the Architect saw a case, or predicted a case, when there would be a virus as strong as Agent Smith. If that Virus occurred before Neo was made, then that virus could destroy the Matrix, with no fight. So, he formulated a situation, where Neo would create this virus, and then get rid of it. Or serve as its vaccine, which will then be planted into the Matrix from it ever happening again.

This explains why the Oracle helps Neo as well. And by watching the third trailer you notice she is the one speaking of how Neo needs to destroy Agent Smith, and on the side there are thousands of Agent Smiths.

Ok i hear that you agree with all of this but the architect couldnt see the virus that was to become smith and so if he made neo previous to that for the purpose of saving the people, then this means that your implying that there is no need for a "one." See im sure if the event of smith going haywire any other "one" would have tried to stop him as well. Plus, what was the point of neo creating the virus when the architect didnt know that it would occur in smith. It could have been any of those guys, its just that smith could have been the most outgoing of the trio. If i missed anything please tell me. This is just my two cents.

All I have to say is that reloaded was 10 times better than the first. I felt that the story was explained in much more detail. I enjoyed every minute(except the end when they said To be concluded).

All and all reloaded kicked ass. I want to go see again. I can\'t wait for the next one.

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
I saw the movie tonight and I thought it was downright terrible. Why?

• Fishburn\'s performance was sub-par. He was easily the best part of the first Matrix flick. In this one , every line he delivered seemed forced. Espically his speech at Zion.
• Zion looked and felt like crap. The CG was downright terrible in points.
• In the original Matrix - Morphues told Neo to run if he saw an Agent , that no one had ever defeated an Agent and guess what? That\'s what they did. They ran from Agent\'s, \'cept for Neo at the end. In this one, goin\' up against an Agent was an everyday thing and no big deal.
• Love story - forced and annoying. Reeves and Moss have no on screen chemisry what so ever.
• Agent Smith duplicating could of been cool, but instead it became a borin\' side plot.
• A lot of poor dialouge (the whole conversation with the man who held the Keymaster) . At points it seemed like the writers was tryin\' to get every big word , ever used in a sci-fi film and put them together in one big sentence. Downright poor.
• The scene in Zion where everyone is dancing and Neo is gettin\' laid. Come on - it was overly long and completely un-nessarcy.
• Speaking of overly long, the fight scenes, while was the only saving grace to the movie, was also overly long. You do not need a car chase scene to be 14 mintues long. It\'s just mind numbing.

Bright side? Reeves truly was \'The One\'. He was great in this flick and when he was flyin\' around, that was badass. However, all it did was make me wish for a new Superman movie.

Was lookin\' forward to this movie and came out disgusted.
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I figured you wouldn\'t like it.  Man you need to get a grip dude. The matrix kicked ass. Your one of those movie critics that everyone hates. Who gives movies like "THE english Patient" 4 stars geesh:crap:

Originally posted by QuDDus
All I have to say is that reloaded was 10 times better than the first. I felt that the story was explained in much more detail. I enjoyed every minute(except the end when they said To be concluded).

All and all reloaded kicked ass. I want to go see again. I can\'t wait for the next one.

Wow, I guess special effects is the money maker for the masses.

Originally posted by Bozco


Wow, I guess special effects is the money maker for the masses.

I never even mentioned the special effects. Yes they where kick ass, but I feel that the matrix has a good story.  Spider man was all special effects, but the content was horrible and it sucked.

I like the matrix plot that is why I enjoy it.

[GmanJoe]

I still like the idea that Persephone is an Intuitive Program and this gave her the curiosity about human emotions (in this case love)

Now read what the Architect said:

"Thus, the answer was stumbled upon by another, an intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche"

To investigate certian aspects of the human psyche. If that doesn\'t scream Persephone I dont know what does. Certian aspects... love. Neo, the anomoly, the culmination of the bug, is driven by what?

Love.