Teen shot, killed while stealing rim

I don\'t like how the media makes the kid out to be an innocent victim, but on the other hand he didn\'t deserve to die for what he did, but in the spur of the moment type thing the guy probably shot at the kids not trying to kill them but merely harm or stop the kids from stealing his wheels. Question is what would you have done if the kid was stealing your wheels that you paid 2 large a piece for

Viewing the US from across the pond we get the impression that there is a very large gun culture and just about every house has a one (at least).

That makes anyone stealing just stupid and they deserve everything they get, the thieves are Americans so they should know the territory and know that this gun culture not only brings weaponry, there are people connected to the end of each weapon just waiting to justify their purchase.

F*ck em, he broke the law and got killed then there can be no complaints. If he didn\'t break the law at that point then he wouldn\'t have been killed, it\'s entirely his doing.

We have a quote file here in my office to write down choice statements that just come out sometimes, here\'s one from the archives.

"I wouldn\'t shed a tear if all car thieves were killed on live television,.............I\'d give my left knacker to see it again".

Originally posted by mjps21983
I don\'t like how the media makes the kid out to be an innocent victim, but on the other hand he didn\'t deserve to die for what he did, but in the spur of the moment type thing the guy probably shot at the kids not trying to kill them but merely harm or stop the kids from stealing his wheels. Question is what would you have done if the kid was stealing your wheels that you paid 2 large a piece for

If I paid 2 large for each wheel it definately justifies a shooting, maybe a warning shot first but only if I wasn\'t woken up at too stupid-an-hour. It depends on the circumstances which is why the thieving little sod has no grounds for complaint, you can\'t judge the mental state of the guy who owns the car so why bother pushing him?

[Kurt Angle]

Originally posted by luckee

So my next question is this....

For those that say he deserved it..I\'ll just go ahead and assume you have never EVER stolen ANYTHING in your lives at all. Otherwise you will be a hyporcrite.  

You are correct, I have never stolen a thing in my life, if I can\'t afford something I won\'t get it, plain and simple.

I have the same attitude with this as I do with signing contracts. If I don\'t read the small print and end up getting screwed then it\'s MY FAULT, it\'s the same with this, just a little more extreme.

I have stolen before, small things like pick & mix from a shop, crap like that. I wouldn\'t have had any complaints had I been caught.

I just think the whole crime and punishment issue needs to be seriously looked at, we seem to live in a world where no-one is accountable for their actions, there\'s always someone or something else to blame, to almost deflect the attention away from the fact that what was happening was actually a crime. People need to sort themselves the f*ck out, grow up and stop moaning, you reap what you sow most of the time.

[GmanJoe]

Cause and effect.

It\'s not the rims that cost the boy his life. It\'s his act of stealing that led to his death.

No one is saying that his life is no more valuable than the rims. Not at all. But some people, not all, will focus on that too much. I know the media and the boy\'s lawyers will, probably the district prosecutor.

[GmanJoe]

Don\'t know who he was effin wit!

[§ôµÏG®ïñD]

hmmmm, I personally think no one deserves to die over stilling rims or anything for that matter, unless it\'s aggravated burglary, assault and theft or murder. To protect yourself etc.
People change; I’ve got mates that have done stupid shit like stealing cars. EVERY one of them have great jobs and are highly qualified. (Not in illegal work)

Hubs are a cost item that can be replaced by insurance. If you don\'t have insurance, you shouldn\'t have a expensive car or car with expensive parts.. The 15 year old boy did deserve punishment, but not death.  He was young and stupid, but he could have changed, not everyone turns out to be killers and thieves if they’ve stolen in their childhood. To think so is pretty arrogant.

If you had a kid, that stole something so trivial. Would you want him DEAD at 15 for it?

[GmanJoe]

Life in parts of LA is quite rough. When you steal stuff from a car in LA, you are at extreme risk of losing your life should you be caught. The theives knew this and they chose to take that risk. The culture in East LA is crazy.

And why did they leave the boy in front of the house and not take him to the hospital?

Why you ask?

Think about it...they were 15..stealing..and just had their *friend* killed. I dont think anyone was thinkly clearly, nor do I think any of them were all that bright.

Me and a buddy of mine used to steal stuff all the time when we were younger.  Looking back now I can admit that we were stupid and we were just dumbasses looking for a thrill.  I like thinking that it was ages ago, but we got crazy with stealing (cars and such) in the summer of 2000.  Now i\'m married and my buddy is getting married in October, we are such different people now it\'s not even funny.

We were just a couple of bored middle class kids who had nothing better to do (or so we thought) with our time than to steal and vandalize.  We actually had a guy pull a shotgun on us once, he thought we were gonna steal stuff from his shop..but we just were gonna stop by to see how much it cost to fix my car.  I feel bad for that kid dying over something that maybe he was pressured into by his friends to do, or maybe just wanted a thrill like me and my buddy used to.

[videoholic]

Originally posted by Green Meanie

F*ck em, he broke the law and got killed then there can be no complaints. If he didn\'t break the law at that point then he wouldn\'t have been killed, it\'s entirely his doing.

We have a quote file here in my office to write down choice statements that just come out sometimes, here\'s one from the archives.

"I wouldn\'t shed a tear if all car thieves were killed on live television,.............I\'d give my left knacker to see it again".

So funny how you ripped the US for getting rid of Saddam who killed so many innocent people yet you think it\'s fine to kill a guy who steals rims.  Beautiful.

Originally posted by videoholic
So funny how you ripped the US for getting rid of Saddam who killed so many innocent people yet you think it\'s fine to kill a guy who steals rims.  Beautiful.

Well, he was stealing. Hardly innocent.

[videoholic]

Yeah, but Saddam wasn\'t exactly innocent either.  That\'s my point.

Saddam killed innocent people and he came down on us for taking him out.

This dude killed a bad kid and he\'s all for it.

Originally posted by videoholic
Yeah, but Saddam wasn\'t exactly innocent either.  That\'s my point.

Saddam killed innocent people and he came down on us for taking him out.

This dude killed a bad kid and he\'s all for it.

Ah sorry, I misread your post. Thought it was something about the US killing innocent people trying to get Saddam. That\'s what you get lurking around while being tired.