URGENT HELP NEEDED (Soulgrind, mm...)

one hundred to be exactly mm. And in this case 100€, which is more than $115.

you act like year saving hundreds of dollars by buying a shitty AMD chip
 
 

You are! The chip, the motherboards, the sockets stay the same with AMD(as with intel they force you to buy a new MB for every new chip revision) and AMD\'s are much better overclockers, since you can manually unlock them, unlike intel.

Shitty AMD chip huh, man you need to study "CPU Architecture" and you will then understand the beauty of AMD designs, as they have created much more intelligent and efficient Architectures than Intel has in the past 4 years.

Back in the old X86 days MHZ was the determent for speed, since all the chips were based off the same arc,  but Architectrual design+MHZ=Speed today.

Comming from a big Intel buyer I can say that I prefer AMD chips over Intel, as I feel that the direction in which they are heading too is more in harmony with my tastes than Intel\'s stubborn monopolistic approach.
Intel bitches about how 64bit will not be need till 2010(funny how there itanium was a failure, while the Opterons are selling like crazy)
Anyhow I will say this the P4c are good chips and overclockers, but still I feel the bartons are much better(2500, the higher ones are overpriced, but that is temp) as well as AMD trend in the past 4 years, Intel could learn a few things from them

Actually the Bartons are palnned to take the Durons place 4-6 months after the AMD64 release.

Shit even there buddget chips will kick intels.

:rolleyes:

how long ago did AMD completely abandon the business market?

come on mm, you have a little love, opwn youyr heart up!

I\'m sure you can appreciate both Chips, as well as acknowledge intels faults or shall we say flaws.

Also If some of you were wondering about  RAMBUS, they are still alive and are in the makings for the ps3 ram, They will not of course manufacture the ram, SAMSUNG etc... will.

RAMBUS had the speed, but High price(due to manufacturing process) and High Latency(although they never had the chance to further improve) kill them off.

On my rig upstairs I have 1GB of Samsung RDRAM pc1066 and beleive me it rivals the DDR 400(dual channel beats it, of course) and I have had that ram for over a year. DAMN

how long ago did AMD completely abandon the business market

I see you edited, annyhow Intel owns 80% of the semiconductor market, they are powerful company, the have the money to MASS market(as AMD does not) plus they have a fool name that\'s has been around long. What I mean about fools name is, the average Joe know\'s nor cares shit about CHIPS, therefore As long as it says INTEL(which they relate to, advertisment) with high speed sticker written on it, they are sold.

Also smart business have been investing in AMD computers to save money while getting equal ro better performance. Still Intel dominates, since DELL for example is the biggest provider for small to large business computers, and of Course Intel has them in there pockets. Unfortunate it is, that in life many superior idea\'s or desings are turned to dust by large bullies, like Intel or MS.

Like they say mm, 70% of the people are running a WinTel pc.

sorry bro, you have way to much to say on a dead topic
typical AMD fan

Looks great to me..

AMD rocks! Dont mind mm\'s dirty Intel propaganda. Mini-Goebbles he is

hey, i really dont care if you guys wanna buy 2nd class hardware

NVIDIA256 the barton 2500 is a good oc\'er but i dont think Adan is gonna oc his rig so i think he should stick to the 2800.
so Adan go ahead and get those parts and try getting a good gfx card while yer at it .

Don\'t bother arguing with mm. It\'s like telling a wall to move.

hahaha, I don\'t like this to become a war. I haven\'t read very bad opinion to the people i\'ve asked for, apart from you, so i\'ll buy these components (+ another power supply for the new motherboard). I\'ve read really good reviews about this nForce motherboard and I\'ll definitely get it.

I hope to have luck and update my comp on Wednesday

graphic card? Well I have an old GForce2, in the new update I\'ll insert another 512mb ram and a new graphic card. ATI or NVidia mm?

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intel = stability

So i guess this is your way of say amd machines don\'t? :jack:
You really must have little to no experince with amd machines. It shows in everything you say. Don\'t tell me you do, otherwise your choice of words would be far from this.  Please don\'t came back with opinions based on Tbird cpus either. It\'s an old outdated arguement.. Like your "benchtech experience" mm OUTDATED

In terms of performance.. a 1800+ will equal a 1.8ghz Intel cpu. Thats same on all P4 vs Tbred cpus. They call them 1800+ etc because of this simple reason. They do get hotter than intel cpus, but they are not unstable.


Adan

Get what you want to get. The choice you\'ve made is fine. I\'m planning on upgrading to a 2800+ tbred cpu myself.

Intel = Business mainstream.
Amd = Gamers choice.

That\'s based on the amounts of pcs i\'ve sold and the reasons with them. Nearlly every Intel machine sold was for a business. Most if not all AMD comps were for gamers.

I\'ve gotta side with mm.

Wintel software is written to run on wintel.  Thus it\'s inherently less stable on other processors.  That\'s what I\'ve experienced.  Do you AMD fans mean to tell me that you haven\'t experienced it?  I would be surprised.

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Then came linux..

Originally posted by Adan


graphic card? Well I have an old GForce2, in the new update I\'ll insert another 512mb ram and a new graphic card. ATI or NVidia mm?

if  u want a budget card definately get an Ati, for a high end card theirs the Fx5900 ultra .

btw stick with the parts you are going to order especially the Abit mobo it is a highly recommended product only other mobo u should consider is the Asus A7N8X.