KiLL BiLL (BeWaRe oF SPoiLeRS)

Are Q. Tarentino\'s other movies any good?

From Dusk till Dawn is one of my all time favorites.

Dusk till Dawn was great up until when Selma Hayek turned into a vampire.

Pulp Fiction is easily his best movie.  Reservoir Dogs is also pretty awesome.

What kinda stripper doesn\'t take her top off???

...no matter how FREAKIN\' HOT she was

Yeah really... I think I popped my first boner watching her dance with that snake...

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Originally posted by Ryu
Dusk till Dawn was great up until when Selma Hayek turned into a vampire.

Pulp Fiction is easily his best movie.  Reservoir Dogs is also pretty awesome.

Reservoir Dogs > Kill Bill Vol.1 > Jackie Brown > Pulp Fiction >

That is how it goes from best to worst - all in my opinion of course. I\'m not a fan of Pulp Fiction....

And for the record - he did not direct From Dusk \'till Dawn - so don\'t count in it as a Tarintino film, even if he did have a lot to do with it. Just like he had a lot to do with Natrual Born Killers - but it is not a film he directed.

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Originally posted from Swifdi

Yeah really... I think I popped my first boner watching her dance with that snake...

too much information....

Originally posted by Ryu
Reading back over some of the posts in this thread (mainly this page and the quotes within), it\'s not surprising to see some of the comments now in the Matrix Revolutions thread about this movie especially from Paul2 who had written this movie off well before he had even seen it.  Oh, and Quddus just has no taste.  It\'s that simple.  Lets keep the Volume 2 chatter in here as well so we don\'t have to create a new thread for it this Friday.

Hey ryu man I tried to like this movie. I was hype for it almost a year b4 it even hit theaters. It just was not all that good man. I would have loved to give this movie 4 stars but you can\'t. 2 at the most.

The title of the thread indicates there might be spoilers so I\'m covered here...
Just got back from Vol. 2 and I must say that I loved it.  

While the fight scenes don\'t match the collective energy of the first volume, volume two digs in to the background story that fans were waiting for...along with some nice action.  The fact that this is a love story just gives the collective film some depth and the movie pulls it off beautifully, imo.

Meeting Budd I was a bit underwhelmed but after getting some background on him he started to fit.  

Elle Driver did not disappoint...she turned out to be the bad ass I thought she was in the first part.  I can only pray that a sequel is made with her character in it.  Quentin said himself in an interview the other day that he left a character open that "with some training could come back".  The question mark on her name on the credits was a little nod too;)  <----  That\'s damn exciting.

Bill...best. villan. ever.    

As I said, I would LOVE to see a sequel with Elle Driver and possibly Sophie Fatale.  Perhaps the sequel could involve Nikki...they certainly have their reasons.

Also, "Hero" looks totally freakin\' cool!1!!!!!111

I saw this with the Punisher today, but I\'ll leave Punisher stuff in that thread.

I thought this movie suffered quite a bit in terms of pacing as it was far too slow and just didn\'t have the pop that the first volume had, but I have to give credit to Tarantino for crafting scenes of dialogue that kept me interested all the way through with the questions being posed, the points being made, and the wit being displayed.  Bill\'s entire Superman\\Clark Kent reference was really right up my alley and I\'m sure anyone can relate by simply knowing anything about these characters.  Heck, lots of people do the alternate personality thing on the Internet everyday with the person they want to be and the person they truly are but no one is the wiser thanks to anonymity.  A truly masterful stroke on Tarantino\'s part on bringing that up.

My other dissapointment lies with the backstory presented in this volume.  Elle\'s backstory, in particular, was severely stunted whereas Tarantino went ahead and gave O-Ren an entire animated and tragic backstory to her final rise to power and to her eventual death.  We know everything there is to know about O-Ren, but we know nothing about Verneeta, Elle, and, to an extent, Budd.  I thought that was quite a bit dissapointing as O-Ren was given this whole animated sequence and everyone else was given a short stint and that was about it.

Other then that, I thought it was very well done.  People are going to give a lot of comparison between this volume and the previous one, but people should keep in mind, for the most part anyways, that this is one entire movie.  When you consider that fact, the whole experience was incredibly entertaining.

Originally posted by Ryu
...between this volume and the previous one, but people should keep in mind, for the most part anyways, that this is one entire movie.  When you consider that fact, the whole experience was incredibly entertaining.

True...but it was not intended from the get go as two films.  Tarintino said he would have liked it to be one big film with an intermission.  It was later decided by himself and  Miramax that it should be two films.

While I\'m not sure of the background for Verneeta or Budd...leaving Elle Driver\'s background unexplored gives more reason to do a sequel with her.  

You know what else I was thinking about...there\'s nothing that proves Bill is dead.  He obviously still loved her and could have used that five point exploding hand technique as a way out...

He said that he never knew the technique because Pai Mei never taught it to him.  How could he use it as a way out?

He knew it had been done to him..."Pai Mai taught you the exploding hand technique"..."of course he did".

Bill knew the technique involved being touched on five different pressure points...he said so in his story by the fire.

Nono, I mean that Bill could never use it nor had he witnessed it, but he knew what it was because of the legend and since Pai Mai never taught it to him, he figured Pai Mei would never teach it to Beatrix.

Right...but what I\'m proposing is that Beatrix didn\'t do it right.  Bill just knew what she had done(attempted) and in a sense played along to end the feud.

^It\'s just a theory as to how the series could possibly still involve Bill.  Though I think it ended perfectly if Bill really did die.

Personally I\'d rather see Elle Driver as the main villan if there is a sequel.

Question...was Lisa Wong(shotgun) the same assassin from the House of Blue Leaves?  (One of O-Ren\'s henchmen)