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« Reply #75 on: October 15, 2003, 12:07:22 AM »
Why pay to watch crap, when you can do it for free. :D
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« Reply #76 on: October 15, 2003, 02:11:43 PM »
Why watch crap in the first place? :p
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« Reply #77 on: October 15, 2003, 05:40:39 PM »
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Why watch crap in the first place? :p



exactly what i\'ve been saying all along
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« Reply #78 on: October 15, 2003, 10:12:40 PM »
OK, I guess I\'ll address this to mm:

Much of the mass culture is crap, that is definitely true.  However there are still people making good films outside AND inside the Hollywood studio system.  I\'m surprised you\'re picking on Tarantino so severely.  He\'s made a total of four films at a very slow pace, and none of them were typical of the modern Hollywood formula for successful big budget releases.  They were like nothing else issued by these Hollywood studios.  The only films that were in any way similar to them in modern Hollywood were made by those imitating him.  He still retains his own unique and recognizable style.  To me that one definition of an artist; a recognizable, definable style or "voice" to state it as a cliche.

Everything Tarantino does references and constructs from earlier genres.  You say it\'s an "insult and a mockery," as if it was your own art he was mocking.  That is not the case.  In fact, it\'s hard for me to understand such bitterness.  Every piece of art man has ever made was an extension of the predecessors that artist learned from.  It has always been this way, but it seems you would prefer that it were not.  I don\'t understand that.  What an empty world this would be if all we had to look at were the FIRST filmmakers to ever create a certain genre or a certain style.  We would all be watching the same films by Kurosawa or Jean Renoir or Sergio Leone or Arthur Penn over and over and over.  Nothing new ever created, only these old classics preserved in formaldehyde forever.

So now I\'ve given some clues about the directors I love and respect.  Maybe you can find fault with some of them given a little effort.  You should know however that I am also a huge appreciator of Jim Jarmusch and Wim Wenders.  These are modern filmmakers, not members of the old school.  They got where they are by using visual language invented by their predecessors.  I will agree that Jarmusch is a more talented director than Tarantino, but the difference I think is that I recognize that it doesn\'t matter.  There will always be some artists that are better than others.  Some more capable of sustained, consistent brilliance, while others have to be satisfied with occasional sparks of brilliance and imperfect creations.  I take it all in and enjoy the parts that are there to enjoy.  Just because Tarantino isn\'t as good Jarmusch doesn\'t mean his films are automatically crap.

You may still believe they are crap, either because they are financially successful, or too unsubtle, or too expensive, or whatever.  You\'re entitled to that opinion.  I just don\'t feel you have the right to damn the rest of us for liking his stuff, and assume that we all have no taste because of it.  

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« Reply #79 on: October 16, 2003, 05:21:33 PM »
So I just came back from seeing Kill Bill, and you know what.....I liked it (*GASP* nO-One has no taste in movies!!!, there were a few things I liked, like in the beginning it had the old Klingon proverb "revenge is a dish best served cold" I liked that a lot. And I liked the silly amound if blood when people were being chopped, I liked that.

Call me a simple minded fool but I\'m easily entertained, all the movie lacked were boobies and a few explotions.

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« Reply #80 on: October 17, 2003, 08:23:28 AM »
I expected at lot out of this movie and was really let down. I would not go see part 2 because part 1 had so many flaws. Would have been better if it was done by someone else. I think he tried to hard.

And had the wrong actresses. I would have used Men and made it more hardcore. Too weak. Just a lot of overblown this and that.
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« Reply #81 on: October 17, 2003, 08:23:56 AM »
^^^^ not the best person to be agreeing with me, but i\'ll take it
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« Reply #82 on: October 17, 2003, 08:51:58 AM »
The previews on television are good for some laughs, no more interest then that

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« Reply #83 on: October 17, 2003, 11:50:15 AM »
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I expected at lot out of this movie and was really let down. I would not go see part 2 because part 1 had so many flaws. Would have been better if it was done by someone else. I think he tried to hard.

And had the wrong actresses. I would have used Men and made it more hardcore. Too weak. Just a lot of overblown this and that.


Those weren\'t flaws...the movie was entirely consistent in its\' concept.  Revenge has been done to death...this was the first time I had a smile on my face while watching it.

I guess some people are just dense or without imagination...

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« Reply #84 on: October 25, 2003, 06:48:24 AM »
I actually liked it as well.  This is the first time I\'ve stepped into this thread because I figured there would be spoilers.

I liked the over the top fight scenes.  The obnoxious blood and sound effects.

It was a fun movie.

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« Reply #85 on: October 25, 2003, 08:25:22 PM »
It wasn\'t Gordon who said the "bald" line...

And the best part of the movie was GoGo...

And I\'m not talking about her fight scene, which was the best fight scene of the movie but thats not really saying much...
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« Reply #86 on: October 31, 2003, 08:36:49 PM »
Only saw it last night.. I was laughing half the time too.

oh and... Gogo is hot! :D

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« Reply #87 on: November 01, 2003, 08:27:05 AM »
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« Reply #88 on: November 01, 2003, 08:29:26 AM »
I haven\'t seen it yet.  But I seen the trailer and it says, In 2003, Uma will Kill Bill.

I read a site that make fun of tarantino about that 2003, and say guess we have to wait till 2004.  I find that quite true and ridiculous (i mean its funny).  Also, the box office, Kill Bill didn\'t do that well.
Unfortunately I didn\'t get a chance to see this movie.  Two reasons:  
1)Movie ticket cost $7.50.  quite expensive for me to watch half a movie.  I went to the theaters quite a lot this year, and don\'t want to spend anymore money.
2)  Its half a movie.  I know, it will be like over 3 hours long if it\'s two movie.  But I guess the major reason why it didn\'t do that well in box office because they think Tarantino is greedy for money.
Also, I don\'t know Tarantino and never seen his movie before, but I heard this guy is so in love with himself.  He gives himself too much credits.
But, I will buy it when it hit DVD.  I hate waiting and i wanted to see it.  Oh well.
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« Reply #89 on: November 01, 2003, 09:08:02 AM »
^ :rolleyes:  .... some ppl....

Anyway, Kill Bill ain\'t out here in Dutch theaters yet. I saw Tarantino\'s Resevoir Dogs and i thought it was quite good.
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